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samana long to be another over many many years but she had to postpone her wish she was caring for her agent grandmother and her family and then like the mother to her and her ballot her brother was the case as she was found
i'm the down
and she went to hear some a buddhist toss as she was considered by the reader to be an eminent lazy side to side so he she wasn't yet announced she was still no to the florida and after your grandmother died she and her brother
labour to touch upon his community to request to her like coordination and by as time she was quite old and she was said to be so rife with a practice that
that very day she experienced immediate and complete enlightenment
last year is listening to the buddhist ceremonies
and there's a poem that
yeah
brought her to that moment of enlightenment and it said that you know this was something initially find the through it it was said have become her own com after she attained nirvana cause this lie down old woman in the world you made your desire is so
still you are clenched and cool
and just assist me is that it's never too late to fully immerse yourself in the spiritual path and for me it holds out the hope because i think that's something i would like to do
have an agent grandma's but are various entities
fully invested myself in the path and it's nice to have a role model someone who is able to do this session she was quiet
down the up was done
a woman that lived during our
i'm buddhist lifetime and she had not actually heard food up and her husband one day a kiss so she was married but children were not mentioned so i don't know if there were any in one day her husband came home and seem to start to be enough
other worldly state and did not say anything tour throughout the meal and that evening
he sat down with her and said i have heard a sermon from this man called buddha and i am contemplating becoming a month
and you you may have the household and either stay here or return to your parents
well with him
so that's what she did and
she went off and join she went off to a group and joined the nones which were are had a functioning group at that time and her ability to ah
teach the dharma was so thorough that buddha said that this woman uses my words to teach with
so she is the own day
one of the few people one of the few of food is cycles whose r vers whose point is actually a part of the are done with pada
so is ah medina
so ah what i did was a july when i looked for climb up
that's in the book will just women but also harder to track them down with it has little different because they point out the editor points out that has been changed in the dom of pada because everything the donald pot is male orientated so what i did was i have heard here which is just a few lines and then i took the one from the
download pot and changed it so it's ah
female gender but there's there's besides that there's a difference that i became very interested so her poems says eager for the end of suffering full of awareness that's the way when one's heart is not a cash to pleasure we say that woman has entered the stream
so the download potter says and the one whose mind film of the with determination as long for the infinite nirvana and who is free from sensual pleasures is called mood so she who goes upstream or against the current of pack
oceans and worldly life she is bound for the joy of the infinite
but what struck me was in hers the one that's attributed directly to her it says when one's heart and the one that comes out of a download pada it says whose mind
and i bought an that's a real difference and gender orientation that the men tender saw so often from mine in women's talk so often from heart now that maybe too much of a generalization but it sort of jumped off of me why when i took on read the difference between those two
but in some languages a lot of nations right as entire money or japanese the character for heart and mind are the same there's no asian there's no difficulty mom aren't mine by in line behind body own that but it is this is english right
so we have a different thing to deal with in this case and that's all it said of after it was a very short two pages on her
she raised her her call again what are we can this
eager for the end of suffering full of awareness that's the way when one's heart is not attached to pleasure we say that woman has entered the stream
i think that's very different than saying she who goes upstream against the current of patients and worldly life is bound to joy the infinite there's a there's a whole different movement between to just in the way the words you use a lot along the images that come on
going against is different than enter into nirvana struck by right
most part of the downtime
it's it's towards the end i'm not so familiar with the down the potter and has been a long time since i've read and much steps or either
the and it's nearly and right man two thirds of the way through

have destroyed the us
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when the sun media sooner not that
i guess her long president in in this context during these beautiful and nanda is her family name on it was really science as friend
greece and was wrapped burma
not as his friend nadia and to die younger brother and sister
and ninety eight mustered or any idea where their children hygiene time so she was born into a very devout family at really cherished sort of faith and religious and and she happened according to this pledging to be most beautiful on an internet
the region and
being in her average internet which looks all that much she worked it on that mission and right or she is named beautiful that you know that personally
and from her mother and your brother were very predominant players in the saga and she lived go for just a realist countries because she wanted to be with them she didn't really have that much call per se and
i guess after she practiced for a while this is kind of biased because it's something her brother said about ireland and it was said that she was the foremost among us and her navigation powers she had really
nice ability to concentrate
and when she went go time to the credit about her study she would often have to reflect on when we lived actually still beautiful in and i'll start you know that her bees can pay eventually as don't you would have her meditate on became bodies to get the sense that like her life
he was always be
when her
it and it destroys off in a very short and i'm kind of trying to reduce her to some degree but it doesn't say issue is exactly vein or not that she is beautiful
but i guess that that mr dean and maybe a problem for her or
just the way for seizures and you know
the poem that's attributed her goes like this
so day and night without letting up i looked at it this way mean she was putting flesh became
and by my own wisdom i perceived it fully i saw watching carefully i plumbed to the very origin and saw his body as if as it really is inside and have even saved myself i have lost interest and passion i am careful quenched
calm and three

when i can connect to destroy the i have and came up
and she was from her ruling family circle and very can do for her call her skills hold the color of pure gold and she was chief constable king in the summer
and
his favorite blocker and so she was also very conceited and even though the food i came to the court and talk she was not interested in to tell and then the points of the court case making corners about the beautiful heritage buddha was living at and she became
i'm curious and went there and then
and it was very beautiful and when she met him he he
ah may made an apparition and image or heard of even more beautiful than that went from use through middle age to all this with for keeps falling out and term here to the brain hurts theoretical and while she was seeing that she
well that's probably going to have between two and
so fan he taught from about that he was
try to kind of
carry too much for the body she will be touched the world and if she worked on
he said
in
oh and if he renounced world you free so and she vows she he told her that she became invalid enlighten and that was one of the rare instances of lay person me
each implicated in life so she left kingpin bizarre and he became a non it came last time there were
the were leaders of the first community of nuns and she was also she is carol in a poly cotton she's mentioned as one
who process is greatest in the
and is the most exemplary not and
so then later in all the king cause a daughter came and asked her questions like doesn't not leave after he died because he ceased further and and she seems to have responded fully to me but that that isn't in the company that's not
written down
what he pointed out that she was cut off revered as that also as a teacher of even a king go and seek at for feet and ask for those questions and her forum is about and she gets
kind of tainted by more like would have been tentative with beautiful payments and he says come on came out both of us are young and you are beautiful let's enjoy each other will be like the music of a symphony
i'm disgusted by his body is file and proceeds it torments me your desire for sex means nothing to him
clashes of the senses are swerves and stakes the elements of mind and body are a chopping block for them what you call the life is not delight for me
everywhere is a lot of pleasure is destroyed the great dark is torn apart and test you two are destroyed fools who don't know things as they really are recreate the beard and vanishes of the moon and tanks the fire in the would thinking this is purity
but for myself i honor the enlightened one the best of all and practicing his teaching and completely free from suffering
and when i read this i
i i actually wanted to ask linda about it
i really have problems when it's about being disgusted by the body was found deceased and i i wonder if this is not a reaction to the male oriented
perception that this bodies bad and the wiggins volume
even more so i i
i just something else
how it has to eat and maybe i'm just with catch to so i sat on hundred fifty i i found an interested in them while ios is struck by from the we just talk about these women and describing in the taxes or how they look and i remember when we talk about the monks of the for the males that to talk about how they look
does he have a guy here
lions vs again
there he asked her overnight so as as well according to the men are saying the stress of in but it's not a lot of women either learn enough cases
the question she's bringing up his that is right is that really true why are they accurate
is why really yeah this is the the fact that they keep saying that and all of these things war is there some myth and here is this some the who wrote this scared of you know i mean as i think it's a little what christina says was wireless fire that all the women writing about they don't like
the body's soft but none of them minutes
so you bring up that that the you know that's the thing that is the way for women but i'm not sure that that's true i you know i'm not sure that's true
but i think many think back
as he man because it is a them of the man had his for years for by the parents fairly than zero and drawn away from their own practice
but as well as think gets them
give attention to organs v that cultivates and or minus than a woman of her own be one
tomorrow you breathe in advance developed and she now
so maybe that it does become english
when is responding to you
as if you're beautiful desert
you know they know that had they hold it up and asked so i would have i is dangerous to nap or threat
it comes to you
as
i see the revulsion a replies is certainly a present a issue of learning
and like artfully fly
and i'm steady or your the medicine were living with longer because the flash blue states through her eyes that medicare so it's actually a way of classic and at this kid and i i tend to agree that part of its final scene as attachment if you exceed
sept your life at all those ages but he accept a wrinkles from when i fly yeah this is how and i if they all of those pages are you can accept them and not revile them and that has part of the learning curve is in first in all of those things and i by treaty
our bodies is filled are almost not gay it because of its profits to them
so fast work together i think that's what's being said here is the
i don't think women would really think of their own bodies as filled if it weren't a
it comes to atmosphere deficit
you know
as the seems like a lot of helmsley her pressure of reactionary that they're you know we talk about they cannot attaching miss a thing and not pushing some way that it seems like
there is there
a definite christian and way you know projection and there's your rejection as which is an action and that doesn't seem like
and i heard that the no matter what the content in their sign and action
yeah lot of the problems have these words and and i have overcome i have rejected special
he's just use a computer to eat every game that i have learned so far about digital references thirty to situation as it is we have as body seems like
i am really really doesn't make sense to me that we should we really need for this way or means rejected and in part of our guys
why isn't this also one of the meditation practices that amongst in about getting the colonel grains yeah jam
so disgusting nature of the body
the bag of bones and and but i wonder if it's a disgusting nature whether it's just just a deteriorating in age as me because of great revulsion or rejection is just the other side of how
ah grasping are pulling
then i think that practices and either one eye or that's a no such cantona and it is the graveyard but i think it's it's to become aware that this is this is impermanent so it's the study of permanence not necessarily the study of revulsion for
rejection so do you think that the phone the christian to read
could be the fifth just the science and we have to study of and informants and i think it could i'm against the way to look at it mandates of how translation
that's how it goes as so i heard it actually has used the hallway
forgot got it
can you read it again
so you want to to excuse her and she says i'm disgusted by is funny it's foul and disease and torments me your desire for sex to install thing to do
what that is pretty clear idea
the function as you could have called him the value thought to have it was the other way round
hit them
i mean i'm also struck by because it seems to me whatever definition it won't ever made
forest of definition means you can stop male oriented or if it's female oil and whatever there is no way of expressing yourself not of so either you either i
to find myself i or i find myself in contradiction to inc which is still not free it's still nice still bound to that definition and nervous or i feel somehow in those stories is they may be reflect also that time where there was no way
even if a woman was free to express that freedom so that someone could understand it is she had to make use those words
what it is
and today the you of stuff we don't even know how are defined because it's so pervasive in some all all some pointed out directly
we have to really state
right
one that i have is julia
use those words in the way as protection is unwelcome sexual advances
hmm
while i did a this can cause in the woman and i was excited mama and she was a dying a prostitute and she became a prostitute and
a moment of change came when she approached with the buddhist monks and and values supposedly quote one of the most outstanding other models and she tried to seduce them and he a spoke to her and you buy it done done it was skin from your demons
eunice with lumps on your for us and nice dreams in your body's little all the time or by us knowing full time i'm not a design purity of orange your body is one of one stuff
and heard her response was she became our an you but what i thought was wonderful that is author pointed out was
they'd tell his story because it shows that the is still attached to his period and that he'd his very anchor her was inside evidence of his own an acceptance
such or and and who she was an accomplished price
goes into it is and and he and dr also knows that perhaps you to
you can read the end and either way that she's either let go of all this and she doesn't need it or that she's followed the same path as a month and guide customers and it cannot accept it but i think you can see from families when i and i felt like yeah she's she did embrace all things her poem
yeah intoxicated by a lovely skin my failure by gorgeous books and famous to i despised her women dressed to kill the poor house tour i was the hunters read my snare for fools but i stripped from them i was the moment of their trees i laughed as he sees them
today has shaved from almost wonder i my same self sit of the trees foot no thought all ties and time i am cut men and guys out of my life i crunched it
there's no one
i first remember
taxi
seems the same
this yourself
and think up
you know and the enact justice the other managed to net
a lot of months with externalize there
registrations and project them underlayment in and i think that really hit me it and it really makes as are those are the histories
i was just thinking about that and he was calling her bag and
whenever i was thinking about the ninety per cent of a lot of traffic or representative sample of off vinci violin after that that is ninety percent of all the to think and in is is about you

i understand that most of these stories are about rich her stores an irrefutable in him
who perspective we have a prostitute yeah use beautiful today as
yeah that's too
probably get a lot of money to
identify
he can injury but at least from liberal on the show the superior recommended that i've heard of us and as or that hopefully problem for girl the street
great

someone whose the were and an here equipment
the
reps lecture on sunday functionality and then the example you gave from that one month
and i can't remember the first to sink mom kind of i still have them up to the girl cause through the window and she's been has to making the same day is it has become a prostitute in a monk goes off and is with her and then at some point he says
she said she says we've been so friendly now let me offer you my my
your service and he said well your job is to recline and my to office to sing opera hockey my family and that was the difference between the author woman in my memory card reacting the same way your among your with over there
and i've not been a few with you know he said what could these old rocky creek we we can all use some than an old are right yes the monkeys are helping a young woman comes here is producing he says this over if you have something to offer you but that there was a real difference between
to attitude resolve and even really resolved of from to shoes
it's in some way that sport cruiser
looking for that they mentioned that very common in this passage the younger of laser yeah no amongst among and as an example of the fact that even that much as not yet
he was rejecting you know different level that a so as an embracing and that's why can be from his cut down and for instruments are to taro men set fire years and i've read that call me for and i didn't quite understand it till i read you life and then this author chose to bring them it is another example
the difficulty of embrace the sensuality or eyes as part of
the extent of well
but i heard that grabs fletcher has her which was a subject the
and of your time
in that legend he was staying in it either for people who choose eldest the isn't an issue of no sex this issue
really intimately connected with sexuality
just not necessarily and gave me a sex that the sexuality were all sexual needs or products are sexual beings are social beings there's no getting away from that certain intimacy and that when
when it comes when you haven't a dynamic of
in early like you for you meet somebody and there's a sexual tension over whatever met that
they need to be love that loving kind treat the person was lying kindness and not just reject them and at the same time
because it is such a difficult issue for people that
you know that we all possess like infinite possibility with sensuality and expression of our special value and we have an ethics squirrel sexual beings for a new job as this early
show that side you know show that sensuality this them that you write off and you don't show a new student right away at work because then they'll come farther for the work and there won't be
the connection you know there will be a basis for it least the and contacts you know becomes so charged interest me
crossing what if i know that
reminds me of what the churches have done
section allows you to africa obviously the sexual drivers
the feast comics five and a half and screen and are lazy him this has to do today on facebook
the seems like into the effort to four different answer is to me now put some restraints out here and a variety of tactics of and try including aversion therapy kinda prisoners on the priests used to go
the italian hard for his australia
cause got a letter he's lashing themselves with the two of i years
what we're going to have patriarchal religion
a patriarchal product was perfect
and was entering home
i have friends president of boston it can find for a torture devices for years ago and and it was one is that this doesn't like most people react to your strongest and and resumes implement that like a pear shaped and it was a survey
in a in an orifice can email skiing out and a focus and if you kill it kill you can be really slow and painful death and then he the author and and he got really fair because underneath the offer instead that the soul of torture is nail and it was the feet and he said you know
i think it's sort of tortures fear and i tend to agree from that point of view that ask instead of you know any via cultures in the world that it develops implements like this and he also noted that the specific target devices were directed at women's what made women with
so they were from is that rejected at breasts and genitals in particular and this is traced us through the ages through these devices because the men were soft already of the vote creativity as for women and some of their abilities and strengths are they attack him and what means that many and i was really interesting them
male authors any research and was frame this point out that it was time for that was fear but i don't know if i would call his of torture mayor perhaps that's a little one side
this doesn't sound quite down to live the visitors
a lot of men has been tortured of agent is vital
and you're a relic of torture
however this is michelle i'm sure that someone
come join me that week
differently yeah i'm sure that some women are violently need any time have question about it just the poor men have the power to like advantage of become too
such as a it
yeah that raises the question of what creates it is a power or
a hispanic
i have that
so if women have them
except during the challenge lay hidden really the women when they had the power
doing
he to them subject i think that
have you for me often means in this culture knows this background
you have
we have to say in the courtroom even green waiting i think
you have to saying
how do you choose of and or behind torture and or behind killing someone some the more we have them inside and even though we don't really act acted out i think
long as i mean it reminds me of people tom's poor my on
talking where he talks that
the girl that shows herself over the boat to the economy's growth to twelve year old and has been raped by pirates and how it goes through and he says i'm a higher than new girl and nine he's everything and and i didn't think this is really true and as long as be point of
finger through something outside and say
there we actually hide and it's enjoy do and they won't change
so
so for me
it becomes really tricky as soon as we say well you know they even do a thing but we're not think so what can we do now if we have power and i mean i i think to
the struggle is that before we try to get everything that made hit because we felt that was more than we have with actually start
how

i think again and think if we talk about the to gender city it gets very complicated but if we talk about
each of us have the male and female less back to reserve to the to write it we hope to come home
need a great
although i don't really feel that i do feel do and typically
i do have that feeling i can't imagine leaving
ah doing was the with analysis to what
some of these ethnic cleansing the torture i can't imagine even if they have power
really man yeah
considering children
how can somebody to self-insure is exactly what i find him on the other hand became be so cruel to each other not maybe tmz collapse of the mentally and emotionally and i think that's less than i mean i don't think that's less awful than physically
i think to drive example to to power that when you look where we we do have counter in the home with their children if you see that feta there's lots of challenges trees
in and interview of glasses and mean i can get an answer to feel like world and you start to look at the causes of the causation of violence against others because stress that only remainder there's little bit more room to the last and mother abused children look distressed that she's there
it's because she can see only thing she can control and hurt the positive for save like designing a women's prison
the computers
nothing ran on his violence look exactly like man's back from there
even if it's
something we were talking about early in the aspect of withdrawing on your behalf instead of fighting you know the less dryness just test
address where you know whether you are
the chance to stop are occur to road
you know sophie where is dominator
we're all i mean we follow his brother
with it you
those failure
not just the girls that division
subject to it

when why like and ninety five percent of our prisons
christmas well they're also third world
yeah
my
span
cause your system and punches

homes also has to do with corporate owners okay behavior
when men are not taught to be quite impressed in fact it's very pleasant and event serve as an aggressive

hey there eating when serial killer
yes a they're here and right there on the people magazine here
hey this for a reason to shoulder a little long before we were due to yeah i guess because the advantage of ago and have invested in and
and hundred and plus one effects
i think it is sort of important that we all miss part of name
this is a little ones
but it's clearly why why morality all the rules about morality exists because we are
have the potential to him
to behave this one well for good about physiologically what about you can test touch purposively selected as said such as
is that way it works it doesn't change the fact of that
mean i think i can point out without getting out limits can do on yeah
a grand for many crimes are different
the
there is there's a part of the funny part of the corpus callosum message that they cannot connect their eyes is said that they don't have access virtually to their feelings life resilience the female correct well i read i mean i don't know just just racers
this sounds like you're gmc when my use a computer
why is that and neither down to the station coming out five thousand years of the community for a wave trains and
the so it's not like past is what me is any price will yeah we we change this may be our brains changed becomes sure how she's going to so
i'm having don't you think you have to be a little brain dead to go to war yeah i mean you have no real i had i heard have to be brainwashed to pay the last year i mean i think as pristine as you say is two thousand years or five years are going in a certain je
directions and you know how do you stand up against
without cutting off the five you so i don't think you let go and kill people without cutting off the first issues
the over the years and this must happen
coming over the you know heroes to the script dental to worry out oh man something that's laying on the fall of research
does your company reply which neither cut off a part of yourself an order to go to war
i don't think you could actually kill another human being a few were aware of what you were doing aware of
i'm like what it all meant
you can learn to stand up and they were attacking you to understand on a context as a twenty-first century but when i think of five thousand years ago i have no trouble mastering it yeah i don't think i don't think
yeah know a hundred generations that it's think anything about it
it's costing a lot in ah well i think that's what transpired fell to about the energy alone because it was best a long time it was just a little difference the difference is someone made a choice to go somewhat bewildering now and the when i asked where
the system food is there and i tell you it's your choice well at some point you made a choice they made a choice not to go to jail you made a choice not to go to canada if you don't own up to the responsibility of that then something else does have were
but i'm not sure a hundred generations ago the person living outside the cave was experiencing any kind of choice about how to survive
that's what i was out
and then the chamber since then and then starts to change that other part okay the what is
it's really isla i realize that yeah what is it that there was a
a group of feeble i mean there was a
there's evidence that there was alone
of harder society and there wasn't that they didn't have a lot of symbols for
ah the think or yeah my fandom right
would you take that as through such an amazing period because i think he's the only long period of time in the history there is no war
but but it already has a lot of snow estrogen about or shaq was there
now that is one anthropologists you really feel that it's looks like there's some question about whether that's valve and
but certainly there's a survival instinct and offer
that we begin with
probably problem was not
i have this feeling of
conversation and really far away from me actually here
nice thinking about this like this series canadian is and different things that i actually went through is it hearing in stories began on killing
that conversation feels that will get up here
and i was
remember how many times in this just as we were telling different stories here reading these different stories of actual fear panic coming that thinking thinking that
being afraid in a way of what was happening what we're doing like it is in that sort of
if sense of challenge a are looking differently or get whatever it is that it was just so on fear and and i also illustrated victory with first need it when we all went around and said different experienced minister
is it
yeah from our of whatever and i remembered
one not only that specifically reduce the title i actually felt violated
i was i i want to stay relief but i'm not sure that that's quite the right word but just
somehow year in this context here just year awareness of kind of or ideology or something where you were and stay and you never really think about it very much until now
in substance that fell to me like potential anywhere anyway it was somehow and or the freedom from our was in consciousness me like everything contradicts flooring along
like you said well you kind of or how i remember the story is you sorted thought of it but
then a kind of went back to sleep because cause you are credited the flow of was happening
and so i i saw this particular sort of session with have some kind of consciousness in a way it's
you know how it's affected other people but it's different over there anything external necessarily change that much it's been really different and also as in class the first time that if it's smaller group and only women
it made a big difference i think part of it actually some of panic in some sense just anxious see man in the room mean the the represent
the males and out and now it's interesting you just feel the difference in size and also
the mix
context
i don't even like as you're speaking up the i don't even know about these other things for them like there's so much
you have just right
seems like so much as they what what what do i do today he has a check
here screen a year and whatever
context for living and i don't really know battle those other things that survival when you lower free
four hundred a well
well i
why consumers
please are evident i mean i don't know if you voted for am interested in
wow
anybody wants is that
yeah if this
how are emitted infected them in any way
however have this
ha
stay here is these stories are just bringing this up the conversation
the different of for people were saying time is exactly how it has affected but in some of what
inspiration
how was the
story as
the hearing about these when you're talking about when they talk to them in their physical
so hot
here are same about the men
the best what's come out
and in and myself i feel a lot of to their nice i don't want to feel
yeah city
when iraq and i i am interested in the dilution email from the british perspective but if my life i have negative and closest to me and closest to know giles
it is it's there some kind of anger there anything i guess
and if they look if you know the religion of opera different religions
he's countries
when i hear
why i feel myself as dombivli facts of life we talked about this before
i feel so relieved to hear about how far back as go
makes me understand the depths of what i do him today for years ago
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and that just to see i think what i'm hearing tonight is some effort to explain why it why don't i have a how many kids
and you know maybe we're never going to figure it out now but the fact of why he resents on his right on the fact is that it's right here today
in all of our lives in some way
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began to see ways we can help each other see it because it's summer now that i hope off and i haven't seen it
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i felt beyond put out on the spot i kind of representative of the man's world and i feel a lot of guilt and shame
i have felt guilty to drago classics or to them
i really wonder whether
whether it would be possible although word of what do we could reach an old where where we talk about this takes more from an ethical point of view
three from from a common understanding that not all the man i totally see not the majority of the man wherever like that and wherever so cruel
as we said tonight and also some women could be cool and were cruel in history so what i would wish is that we could speak from a more not is polarization palos that issue i felt a lot of polarization true throughout his classes and be quite heard
i wondered if it's possible to talk
more from an ethical on reviews about to states even if they are very emotional
not while leaving a little of this polarization i don't know whether that's possible but that's the first language
and she might said that weeks to come here from black that
i think really that's one reason things don't change because it's very hard to talk about this without shaming somebody and then on the whoever's feeling shame plastic
or leave
so i think it's great
like to say something that killed because he can go we scotland inequality is easy for people who have more power feel guilty that it isn't your fault as someone said that think i am for centuries and you know
as they become more aware of it we can try to change it but
exactly thought that you want that and have been a net more power
in well in the world in general
i think if you become aware of some of the ways in which the house played out you you can become our ally us now
i'm like
i wanted to app to that i've been involved in these discussions for years and i should i think it's very difficult to it interesting and the only time i really and i started to approach getting what it must feel like romantic about the rage was to be a family
east conference for eloquent slip straight down the line on race the and what the life people couldn't say anything because there was an employee to says it didn't come from guilt for the possibility of creating your interest and there was never to be heard and to just still paralyzed with a week or
just sit there and i can
i think that we're here to think about than that it's about cross cultural communication in really ways that we start from the highest
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if i had to speak out i also feel kind of like is a bit out of place to had to say something i almost feel like
it's almost more for free to listen but i guess that's not necessarily the case
but those color how on experience of being here interacting and was

for me i felt so i felt somewhat a shame and guilt throughout but really not until tonight that i feel very uncomfortable and tonight kind of things kind of exploded and where's lot of the resentment and feelings were kind of focused on this time way back
and then buddhist era in the good of yourself tonight things can
okay
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and of course idea i mean i can
i can say or feel this and all these things that are talked about men that are part of our culture are not within me so i do show some ownership of them and feel uneasy with that
at the same time i was taking that
that as we go through life for all actors and we all act out pieces or of the play that's kind of been written for generations and through the cultures and civilizations and i was taking alone when people are people were talking about
custard and a lotta male cultures are many soldiers have killed others and how could they and
a baby women couldn't know when or when wouldn't as is to happen in history the
not that erosion me was that know if we all feel we have naturally and necessarily feel sadness and compassion for the victim in those cases but i was thinking or what about people who are perpetrating crimes and there's there's
for they're acknowledging that there's gotta be a lot of hurt and suffering within the people who commit these crimes and though we don't tend to think about that and realized that we need to be compassionate for them and maybe the ashes are derived from their own being that because they are acting as something that's been played out for them and
i'm just taking but them into holistic way of looking at there is so great to hear the man well i another piece of pizza
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how it was when i was in my teens and twice and now
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