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a brothers like most of you know
but he certainly a potent a conscience
how can you hear me robert blake most of you know he certainly a poet of conscience of brilliance and he somehow makes poetry a little bit dangerous

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so let me say this surgery
what a joy i feel to be and with this community
i very much and even in minnesota we can feel is your blog
there
as anomaly intensity i feel from members of the community that i have seen in my readings and there's some way in which are what you're working on is what the ports are working on many of you guys pushing yourself
so
i thought i would read
in for little parts here
and me will have a break if you wish in the middle remember at any time indirectly with a question or with you
in places where the average rating has remained alive such as nigeria and russia as they know that are originating in a string and concert or not the same
this finger or dead concert everyone pretends to be graham and everyone is very cultured and very simon just a disaster for ordering ordering rating is not an agriculture
it's an active a of worms their family
and orgy ratings were to experiencing a tonight is a one of the oldest
creations are human beings each and a good human beings get together and something that resembles a cave and
when someone says a few outrageous things
and everyone feels better
is supposed to stand that and we lost as for four five hundred years he an invention of movable type realized it where the phone doors to the page and i ah
thought about it the last night i went to a conference on protagoras that was given the lindisfarne and this last summer in a very interesting detail came up
man kinda were kids were talking about what happened to the solid in ancient times the solid protagoras dealt with solids and those were five side and eight sided salads twelve cited solids and the interesting thing was that he dealt with them as silence they now know for example that in the babylonia
will give an actual triangles which they had on their desk they were actual solids that they dealt with that was true when plato came in he made one slight change and change was very interesting it went like this the man telling it
held up a solid
this matter to asia
then it had five sides so he took a piece of paper and he cut a hole in it with five sites man
then he passed the salad in and out of the paper
then he said that plato said that this paper is the same as this out
that was the amazing thing and haven't found a point of view epithet goes that was a disastrous to go
because for taggers would not allow any teaching to take place without the body for sagres would not begin and nature without his minor chord

is penetration through the body
when you into daggers to school you could not attend a lecture until you a chance for two years and only britain's your give one you couldn't attend one is would cut down our make sure very from consider
the agra then once he had strikes a chord
would break it in the sandra
are you'd hear book and he break it father
for you do three and need big at further so you do for and then he weren't you mentioned that the relationships between the sounds that you just heard
and their measurement
in
inches or millimeters is the same as the relationship between the diameters of blacks
and that those relate to the distance be trained and shocker and the same a shocker the sacral chakra and the summer charge there's summer jobs and hugs
how did you and are they dealt with the speeds of the planets and they had done a lot of work in net by that time they knew they knew the speeds of the planets and there was some production of other about of enter so there is a question is whether using human speech or damages ministry good question you should
but the point of the whole thing was that when you're finished with as you recognize that we live in extremely mysterious universe and at the center of it comes down to the body so when this was picked up again in the middle ages the renaissance then you see those figures were their hands up like this in the circle around and said all pathetic years teaching
well as plato did was to destroy them
by saying that the paper flat here is the same as a sovereign that is very amendment it comes from and geometry when i was in high school we restarted the triangles fled on the pages and interesting incredible and that's why we didn't have anybody
school i mean it doesn't lie it's dissolved on the same thing but it's very interesting to think that one that the ancients meant by a poetry reading was a case of solids in which the time goes out and in floats in the area between all of us it flows out there somewhere it's an actual south and then what you do it movable type is exam
duty by plato did with the solid you put them flat on the page and the point then loses its solidity and it loses its volume and in some way it no longer react without button so the porch reading then is an attempt to go back to play a free platonic situation more tigris situation and that's terrifically interesting and that is why
in ancient times the the a musical instrument has always used where's the heart

well i hadn't planned to do there's been all begin with a little homework by show that i've always known
and i'll send to your first in a voice as if it around the page
and he was in his garden and buddhist temple bells start ringing
in mustache moustachioed this on keeps coming out in flowers
moba stars but to san keeps coming out of hour

the tambo bell
stops
but the sound
keeps coming
out
of the flowers
and you feel the difference

ah another little by show
it's late

it's fall and a full moon
i want
allow the shore of the lake all night

it's fall and a full moon
i walked
around the shore of the lake
all night
say that wonderful remarks at basho that can use as a as a comment for this rating was wonderful and remind my source and he said the total and most poetry is and it's either subjective or objective
and about takes care of interest
wonderfully with his days
funny that you call us the reefs ah you say he's exactly right and struck me again and again you see we are so trapped down the page and in the platonic view of silence that we don't have a word for this the other day i was reading the white goddess and i found that the welsh had a fine word for for what is happening when the problem on design
amazon like a muslim advisors or
so i thought of saying i will give a module on is on my it doesn't seem that i agree with you completely in the other day i why do we kind of reading because if you read it off the page it's not a reading
it's platonic
because the voice is trapped in the voice is caught
a dear friend oh my i very much and hadn't seen her for long time and she was reading and i went to see her and she was reading off the page and i had the strange sensation that what it was like with those you know sometimes you go to him and and they'll be these little curly q thing is going along the edges
ah
and i sort of saw her voice go like this it got a little bit away from the page and then went back to which than would think they're better way than women but when you were upon his memories than the voice has the opportunity to go out
hi fly's and is able to investigate space so i thought the other day of a possible ecology concert hungry i was a son and that's on better
and what about the people who don't play instruments
but there's still a concert isn't it even if they don't use an instrument
yes i think is gerges that said the most beautiful instrument and the whole world is a human voice
so that's what you tried to do a perjury
fine
kavita poetry sharing
well it and puts us back in the sixties again
on a lot of these words were using the sixties they had to watch out for him because when someone says i'm not just share this with you put on your armor boy
often times it's equivalent to please standstill i'm going to bust you and emma
so i like your idea and it didn't come up with a synonym for sharing really wonderful thing
because his his understanding of it is quite right as i'm not mentioned in nigeria they consider that abroad to reading has three elements to it the time
the poet and the audience the point is poem is quite separate from the power from the fourth and that is why it doesn't matter whose poem is read particular native bush but it's important that someone be there to do it took home alone cannot do it it's gone to have the whole human psyche press and the audience has to be present the are
audience has to come up and speak an object and say i don't want this we had a decent problem for a change
and the audience does not and there's very interesting i asked to answer tonight who knows a lot of just nice a dance which what does this mean about the audience and he said well in the oral tradition first of all there is no fixed to a form of a point there was no original many points
and this was discovered by the people that harvard lord and period when they went to yugoslavia and nineteen twenty and they found old man in the mountains have memorized fifteen thousand lines and when you wanted them to cut down for your county sheriff they'll do it now come on he he lunged you want fifty bucks to give you seventy five minds and goes on this way now they none of those things are
right around eighteen forty five and they are still telling you how to kill it
but on the other hand if you say to them someone in our village the two boys i had a knife fight outside the box and when i'm kill the other could you put that in the poem oh certainly it's all about halfway through southern tanzania achilles acted just like and pretty your comes even and zone know why but the point is that the poem is open
to the situation
and this maze the academic because they been looking for forty fifty years for the original of moment
isn't it
so as i said in nigeria when the when the audience which responds and allows itself to respond with the body and so on and radiation is coming than the board notice is going to line is not is dead and at that point he rewrites it on the spot
may have been to private or reference maybe as a reference references on past president of people who've forgotten so you have to rewrite it in terms of reagan and everyone will understand
again when you when you go to the printed page you lose your silence and you started getting obsessed with the printed page itself sometimes i'll be doing a poor treating and i'll look out in someone show our men his wife would be going through a book of my poems my reluctance very bad
you can take them through the and yeah just in time so then i change the line and they said
so then i noticed them and i start changing lines all along with the minutes i change the whole poem they're flipping through the book

no began then where the poem
we'll go through several sections i'll do one little poem
will begin with authentic lot in authentic life
let's begin do
it's something we all know about
in authentic life
and there's something wrong
and then then i'll do a few poems of grief
then i'll do a few forms and fathers and sons and then we learned
the few forms and formed maybe tonight on
stream sequences in the same
where to go
two one an this poem i wrote and i was about thirty years old twenty eight or something
tv i can remember
the vol has come clear as the eyes of chickens
strange muffled sounds come from the see
sounds are muffled are locks and swamp beings and lonely bays surf crashing an unchristian shores and the wash of chinese snail shell in the wandering gravel
the first hands
it's a little poetic but
the middle snail shells coming up and down and that's a bad
and the wash of tiny snail shell and the wandering around
second stanza something is wrong with my life i feel it sends it
as i walked down to stay are holding a cup in my end
my body feels blood lot sudden silently
something here
cried independency
so it stands a something homeless as looking on the long loans
a dog lost since midnight
sometimes in our country and then come up from minneapolis a beautiful hunting dogs and then when to pheasant season is over they a lot of the car and they wander around in the ruins
for several weeks something homeless as looking on the long road is a dog law since midnight
the boxelder bug who doesn't know his walls are burned his house has gone
even the young son as you m is lost wandering over earth as the october night comes down
caleb
and when a little thing ladybug ladybug hurry on home how are your children or burn your house is gone and with that little on how does it go houses on i have children
i couldn't put in the germans too much t
something homeless is lurking on the long roads a dog lost since midnight
a duck among the odorous reads the boxelder bug who doesn't know his house gone as well as or burns
even the young son is lost wandering over earth as the october night comes down
well that's that stage we live in we lived in it also high school the yeah no authentic life when your lie all the time
i lied always in high school no matter what people ask me
i wanted to be more like basketball players in the day i was with a group of men in minnesota about twelve and and they've been reading the article i did in a wild man and asked me to come and talk to them and i did and and i mentioned this you know that i the whole child was a disturbance where the mail begins when you lie all the time about what it is you on wanting to be
the and as soon as i said that are all the menus twelve sitting in the edges are they to they went down these lectures and we all went back into that grief and finally one man said i wonder if never was a basketball player
a wonderful and like been a basketball player himself before have to be a bad luck
so the males are phone off in there and of course it isn't donate that we we began at early in our lives to agree to live in authentically and and the phase i take from them and joseph campbell who is a one of the people i love her night if i win in five hundred miles or where he is i go
and he was and how was with him and even incredible lecture on the fourteenth century and he said department of fourteenth century was an authentic life
because there were so many arranged marriages
our church insisted on it and insisted the marriage could not be broken
so an authentic life became such an amazing force that eventually the province south porch and others came up with the idea that there was no was a love that was separate and us into has what they wrote about it nothing to do with marriage terrified to church mentioned they burn them all
my aunt so it's a very live issue how i shone through all of you work on this is very strong and coming into the aspect of life so let's go on him
leaving the an authentic life what what happens next i had no idea and high school none at all
i lived alone for three years i made it and i went to new york i'm middle living's one day a week as a file clerk as a house painter i could live for six days and when i made in one i didn't do anything
know anyone so that wasn't different
and so when people ask me how did you get the small amount of sincerity that you have
haha
my answer was and live alone for three years
and as me i want to be a part what shall i do i say live alone for three years to immediately leave
it's not their idea of the whole things but really when i think of it now i don't think that's accurate and solitude is marvelous as a place to heal our wounds i want to ourselves
but now i think more and more it's kinda the whole thing is connected with grief
ability to feel grief
so we'll use that tonight as a door
grief is a door into finn
as the door
and we don't use in the united states
why were terrified of grief
we haven't grieved over the vietnam war yet can you imagine it
how many years has been
i was in russia this summer for conference in kiev a writers' conference and that moved me the most in russia i couldn't believe it after two days i realized i was in a country that understood grief they grieve over the second world war you know they lost twenty million p
apple there we lost four hundred thousand
and so when you read the russian it's just right that's right under surface the war's over a year and a half ago on but that wonderful feeling that you have in russia that we do not have
is connected with their ability to grieve i think i was tremendously move back
shall i give you a poem by a russian them check
we'll do one hundred modules on age and eighty five
style and especially hated her
she stayed in the heart here he hated her older half none in half horror which really wasn't bad but
about nineteen fifty seven congress to one of her books illegally and the russians lined up sort of five blocks to buy at price went up to fifty rubles in today's than stone heard been it and he called back now knowing devotion and bookstores in every book central library
then he put a soldier on cider house she had her appears a window twice a day to indicate she hadn't committed suicide yet or less rational
so whenever pounds she'd been translated for the first time now by a woman and doing the she translated the other the many of under and that are done it but a woman has translated for now jane kenyon a young woman in in vermont and new hampshire and i'll read you when change sensations
the i do not like the candle
i didn't want to close the door
i didn't know i got not bring myself to lie down
you don't know how tired i was
and the things that everything's ruined
but we suffer like that damn in hell
oh i was certain
that you weren't come back

amen
under once more

i didn't know like a candle
i didn't i close the door
i cannot bring myself to lie down
you don't know how tired i want
and the things that everything's ruined
we are we suffer like the damned in hell
oh
i was certain
that you weren't
come back

so she brings us enter the point where she's most vulnerable and then she started to enhance it
and when it's so strangely light
it doesn't weigh us down
it's true grief it isn't complaining
it isn't blaming anyone
made a mistake in percent
and i got more hers
anna admired over
get out of russia once when she came true
came to england and the english had graced enough to offer her an honorary degree
an accident
and she came up and sixty four
and in russia because i know gnomic and don't say because in russia we know that there is a learned that there's a feeling a feeling that there's grief and that art has great dignity by the artist has great dignity and she had had severe arthritis for a long time and when she came off that train in noma in london
there's a photograph of her coming off and she's choose know arthritis sheesh
a treasure because the dignity of art does not allow you to bother about arthritis if your head
she comes right off the and looks like a train walk and then she died a year later and this is the last one of the last function before she died in nineteen sixty four by the way not only doesn't she blame our poetry has a lot of blame and
but she praises the outside world and everybody
you never has a time that doesn't have some praise of trees or ocean or something and to understand it you realize how many poems in the united states has never seen tree my single rock
on the potion is pitch
praise as revealed to stand orgy is basically praise that's what it basically gives and you can feel it in here are you really unlock my door
the

he
a land not mine
still forever memorable
the waters of its ocean jail and french
i recite that is the first dance i'm excited at one night and i said i don't understand the stands and and a woman came up to me afterwards and she said robert i think that matter where he means by this another human soul
a land not mine
still forever memorable
and the watchers of its ocean
chill and friendship
the sand on the bottom wider than chalk

played son
lays bare
the rosy limbs
of the pine trees
son
on the ethereal waves
i can't tell
if the day is ending
or the world
or if the secret of secrets is inside me
again
as an for a fine
how the poem
he's like it again and not you had just make up i'm sad

gorgeous at the an orange juice

a land not mine
still forever memorable
the waters of its ocean chill and fresh
sand on the bottom wider than shock
late son
lays there
the rosy limbs
the pine trees
sunset
in the ethereal waves
i can tell
if the day is ending
our the world
i am
the secret
of secrets
is inside me
again
hmm
use it make something up your screen by point
if you say one more or not
the street someone thinks someone yelled at the street on maya
i'll tell you one other thing and moved me
i'm i'm i'm i feel very glad that a bingo she is going to
russia and that the as people you know they love us and the other day at the face of the enemy conference it was clear that russia considers itself as our younger brother
at the man said you know there was about premises four billion and to altar to rebuild
then he reached in his pocket and he out of paper
we lost sixty three thousand kilometers of railway track
there's a twenty one million pounds he named the sheep
the buildings all of those laws and he said but you gave the money to the germans
ah i can feel him he gave them money to the germans and actually arthur cox was there from the form of the oil assassins yeah he's doing lot of where teargas neck in arms and he spoke up and he said not only did we give them money to the germans but as soon as we set up by military intel
clinton's over day we hire general galen he named him who is ahead of the secret service for the nazis as the head of art
sure how could we have failed to see how the russians would perceive it
have you had a particular son
reach their launch a grief but
but then he was there yesterday asking us to recognize him as a younger son
he said if some i'm confident how come where the second nation in the world
access haunt you
and then carsick members to do this do this do this and and we loved him and he said you always one is to to change he wanted to change and then ulemas but we don't ask you to change he said besides it doesn't work you know you can't love each other all the time but you can still make a deal you can still make a compromise even still helps the world from they've been destroyed
you must take us as regards that was cured for wasn't beautiful it was beautifully it had to take us as we are remember those times and family you who are married early in which you assure you could change the other version go
but if only you do this
amos at times
i let's go on him
so we're still under grief area know i'm going to give you a few more grief for shall i i know why not
give you up
gentlemen and hopkins
ah so wonderful and my little town i live in a town and in minnesota moviemakers ashley and the minister there is a friend of mine he reads young and and points you always know when you got a good loser minister now if you eg on on this one out of ten thousand and fancy anyway so
so he said we're having a thing on grief and i know you have been already some great forms would you come and give a little talk and between services on grief and and we'll have the undertaker the next week
how so i memorized i thought were told him i know that central and grief
very many outcomes so i went i wrote i memorize this form going to you
he knew a younger on a margaret
and one day she was out and she saw the golden goal which was a grove of oaks the leaves falling off and she came to him waiting
and he was his phone
margaret are you grieving over golden go on leaving
leaves like things of man you with your fresh thoughts care for canyon
as the hide grows older it will come to subsides colder no spam aside the world's the one would leave me a lie
but you will weep and know why
ah no magic child and name so springs are the same it is the blind man was born for it is margaret you mourn for
i think it was a first i ever and when i was in college i was about a sophomore they went all the way and i was stunned by the idea that when we mourn its for sales or morning on so period and then if you're a little apologetic are guilty you say poisonous
selfish demand for yourself i mean that training wrong
german years and i don't mean that nervous stuff
don't have i as exactly right
and everyone's wrong here
gorgeous work on sound here gorgeous work on sound tremendous watch that margaret come up at the and their migraines and and is so beautiful when when you have a genius and sound you're dealing with the memo to to usher said that trouble most poetry is as either subjective or objective
now part of the object of early sound
saunders here before we were
so if you're writing poems without sound it's too subjective
if you're dealing with sound in your poem
you're dealing with something non human does make any sense you
you
he does many do it
once this one go now i memorize a poem it and then wonderful thing about a poem is called learning it my heart i love that
goddamn i heard them
carl learning in my height and then couple lines kind of i'm shaving under an all time setting ah no matter child the name i said it on fifty times a second day my kids and daddies and wouldn't go now
i'm in availability saying ah no matter your child and name
no matter child and come on stayed with me ah matter child and name silo springs are the same was on brains are the same ah no matter the child and name silos springs are the same it's a tool
june ah no mad her child and name so strains are the same come on now the ah matter child and name silos brains are the same ah no matter a child and name song
those brains are the same but didn't your chance now ah matter a child name size was spraying these are the same doing with a little anguish and ah
no matter
in south australia is either to say once more
hi i came so sprains are the same it is the blind man was born for edges margaret you mourn for
she arrived

one i'm a writer
superman

all of you know the newness work i thought he was the greatest porter line
i found him long time ago and asked for
and i translated him
i know end with him several times
and
and i was reading in colombia and his last rating there and after i d came in here is a great friend of andes and they made a bastard parents and of course ordering that time we had to cia was paying the truckers and santiago not to bring food into the city so that the housewives who were rebel against
dave regime and it could go on television
neruda didn't know that is a time but new to say turned to the audience that i have to go tomorrow morning to paris to negotiate or loan for chili with the world bank i don't think we'll get it
he said i think you can bring us down is that i think you probably will bring us down
name is coleridge and the poem is called and the ancient mariner i want to urge you to read that point because if you bring us down we will be an albatross around your neck and he said as sweetly as you're not with a slight tinge of anger denial
and and it didn't again know then we want we want them down to see a him down brought him down we brought him down we brought him down
and neruda was having an operation for cancer the first aid at the time and ginger and they bought him news a handy been shot new and into depression and do not come out and the doctors i read the account of his wife and i went the doctors didn't want to teach him
they knew that would be in
so
so when night or i unfounded him they told me he'd died economy and said how you feel the papers and i said i feel
he wrote his work he did it get it all done
oh mon for him
but i had more grease and i saw it in about six months later we had a little drowsy and minnesota and my my some little weeping willows i'd planted were dying and i went off to my writing shack it's some miles away and as a granite quarries in between newark unveiled for those or even know and i don't have water in my shack so i bought some water with me when hooters always connected with one
he lived in the i used in the negro on the shore yeah the second largest see some collection and world when he died and we wanted them picked up production
in so i was just want and the way a religion
a morning happening
why do is practical
especially in august
this faucet water the drops into the buckets that i carry to the young willow trees whose leaves have been eaten up by grasshoppers
or this jar of water that lies next to me the seat as i die to my shack when i look down the seat all around the joys dog
for water doesn't intend to give it gives anyway
and the jar of water lies they are quivering as i drive through a country side of granite quarries stone soon to be shaped into blocks for the dead
the only thing they have left that is theirs
for the dead remain inside us
as water remains in granite hardly at all
for their job is to go away and not come back even when we asked them but water comes to us it doesn't care about us it goes around us on the way to the minnesota river
over to the mississippi river to the gulf
oh is closer to where
it has to be
no one leaves flowers on the grave of water for it is not here it is gone

i'll give you a small for my wrote
on sorrow sorrow and grief how related
they're both very different from depression
depression is passive
if you refuse to go into grief yourself then sometimes it'll go along alright for ten years or so and then handle come up and blew them and scum depression
for the ancients they believed an active word with it it went down yourself two or three times a day that's called grief or so
so i'll give you a pro-am i and so

this is a form that i am i use it is each poem has eighty five syllables
concentrates on one or two songs
what is our for
it is a storehouse of wheat barley corn and here
one steps to the door turn around stone
and the storehouse fits all the birds of so
and i say to my zone will you have so at last
go on be cheerful and awesome
be stoic yes be tranquil com
or in the valley of sorrows spread your we
and
what's more
the third line mentions around stone in norway you know i'm norwegian originally the the stone the old and storehouse's up above the ground and then there's a great big round stone read in fact your step up to the storehouse this still i was really test pattern you know so that mentioned
online
so as or it's aura poems could become a little concerto in a keyboard
the know what i'm saying when will i are at last
like so many of us were to the professionally cheerful so the missionaries of the smile

the your and europe and your where the whole bunch of americans they're all smiling like man so wonderful to see a from and condone to stream
as him how he is is as town with
are you

what is sorrow for
it is a storehouse
have we
barley corn and tears
one steps to the door
on around stone
and the storehouse fits all the birds of salem

and i say to myself
will you have our own at last
go on be cheerful and autumn
the stoic yes
be tranquil
or
in the valley of so
spread
you are we

or be one more rematch these i i give the name reminds to think it's a french word i found one day at a fluke concert connected with a word french word connected with the singing of birds

what choice do we have that you go down
how can i be close to you if i'm not saying
the clam tom those and deserve
and amber hose the sega desired there's a v fell before his room design
the lonely man reads by his lamb at night
what is it then we want
some ancient man
half there and half human know what we want
and the more he charged to us the swifter we can go
down
i can do once more
see what does add one in enron is in them
that's an awesome and a little can children nikki of i'm i'm is a beautiful so
m is really going to in is one of the favorites of mine in this view
this isn't hum

i rarely very much the work of james hillman james hillman said a magnificent thing i'll tell you just a second we'll go back he said
you realize that something very strange is happening to us to realize that find boat out the interpretation of dreams and eighty ninety nine that's eighty three years ago now do realize how much society has changed and eighty two you
our you wonderful things going on in this century wonderful
and our psyches i've actually changed and one of the ways that their change that there was becoming a secret connection between our psyches in greek mythology
greek mythology is alive to us now more than it has been for two thousand years something strange is happening i wasn't without a we weren't in a car today and she said you know i'm forty years old and i have a seventeen year old daughter so it was time for me to begin to read about damage in procession
in century an academic thing she didn't you enter like bread and she told a astounding thing should she had found out by just reading little things in it
go on human
this is what she said she said i went over that think the damage or and for seventy and over seventy he's taken down she's taken down she's taken down that's not to be considered a man think she was taken down
now when she came back up again and met her mother she said there's a strange strange scenes and those myths because she and her mother of seeing each other for the first time
she and her mother i changing things for the first time you know as people giving them when she came back up again then you feel that she said why is that whilst i think it's because for seventy is a queen now too
is he has to queens of dont region
so if you wish to talk to your mother it's necessary to go down
become a queen there
then when you come
very nice very nice i would never thought of it in a thousand years but she understood against them
i
he says and underneath our lives there is a river it's called haiti and that rivers flowing beneath ours it's parallel with eyes but it's flowing beneath it
and hades is moist
hades is moist their tears and hades the dead are are to by the way
and when you're at a wedding and you're suddenly started to cry don't wonder why you cry you cry because it's so beautiful and human beings honor each other in this way and themselves is so beautiful that you fall into hades like that the tears come you're in here
and at a funeral i've fallen into is one of the first time i understood i fall into a funeral or hated funding to hate is during a funeral and it isn't because the person time
i remember very clearly an old friend of my father died as a to finland said joseph joe benson was born in a coney island and at the age of twenty he moved north to a lesser county minnesota and the age of twenty four he was united in marriage to to m anderson
so beautiful day here a human life spoken of and and simple clear way i went right down was swept and wrapped in room as come falling in names and of course we don't trust that the united states that we've been cookies and coffee right away
it's tuesday they are a minute to laugh
so that's a wonderful thing he said the ancient world descended into hades two to three times a day
there's no problem with depression in the ancient world it isn't it's hardly mentioned eighty five percent of our troubles come in bay area you're connected with depression and other thing is terrific an interesting his purpose of all great artists a w and eighty
you're walking along and you don't know whenever it out and johann sebastian bach to i am sometime
but you're going along dollars seventy july to got to
and you can back up and he says here's another variation
how genius of them over the age of council
just when you think you're safe down ago via changes a slight note and them
so

what choice do we have to go down
how can i be close to you if i'm not that
the clan tumbles in the serve
and amber
holds the secret desire that the me fell before islam goose island the lonely man we buy his land at night
what is it that we want
some ancient man have their and half human know what we want
and the more he charged to us
the swifter we tumble down
eh
how already been after nine and i'd like to eat you another group maybe a few landforms and i wanted to read a few poems and fathers and sons which i haven't gotten to yet when you're need to have been now you're going to go onto some of your father forms you need a break no not at all
i'm trying to hold myself out i used to be read change have four hours and went to kind of you take it and i hadn't read poetry readings as ninety two thousand yeah i mean for for our and
that so
well i don't read for ten minutes or so do is a couple of the phone shine and then when we come back i'll do some of forms and on
couple of form

what what feeling the men and the united states has
and he has meant much but
i'm trying to say that the feeling usually comes to rush through our mothers
in a way the mother in the house represents feeling
the father often represents the world
and we're certainly turn and nineteenth century
and since feeling a so dear to men
they often a very close to their mothers for many years
thirty five or forty
during that time their fathers out there somewhere
the sun often has a only is believes that doll the feeling is where the mother is there's no one is believed encouraged by the mother
ha
you know you and i are sensitive i don't know about him

sometimes the daughter and a father you know that one
the father says that the data you and i have sensitive i don't know about her
so sometimes the reasons i wasn't my family a conspiracy train a mother in the sun keep the father out
so it takes a while before the sun as able to understand that there's tremendous before he turns sort five and before he understands not to accept his mother's you of his father
it wasn't done any of the the competition for you and more feelings and when you expect
so and then the sun comes to the point of realizing how much meaning there is kinda
the father by the way all these years can't say anything
but can you say
i've mentioned that when i used to go home and an always be the same thing i sit and talk and my mother in the sofa and then if i remember that i'd been a bedroom and say goodbye to my fat
don't you think he heard all that
father is not allowed to sing he doesn't say anything that's been gone on long time
can you say
so when i realized that i decided to him then
and and it doesn't mean shouting into mud and resolve them
on her unconscious and years it has done before an age when you can talk
so words don't help
but
so what i would do as i said my father had to one out of a long them but we have been kind of minutes when i go home i said in bed with him
i sit down with him
and after a while my mother wants to talk she comes in and system
nothing has to be said
as all understood
by once
i suppose after two or three months of that i reached over one network my hand my father's knee
he didn't pull it away
i didn't have before that i put my hand my thousand and twenty doing
i don't have your singapore radio and
and i was high so i'm about two weeks ago and he said to me how's your writing going come on
what'd you say
i was so astounded i couldn't reply
fifteen minutes later he said how can any going on
home
so i will do you i'll do you to forms i think since it's a it late older your to poems and the father first one is called finding the father were in that situation that i mentioned to you in which you're still very much caught with your mother it's nothing evil about it autonomous system to fathers out there
and also it can be said that in our country in our country now
it's a powerful side and the sons where you are with your father all day all year in ancient times i was with mind as a boy all the time in the engine and have an illusion father's away from the house
he cannot get his old bond which is teaching you things how can you teach you how to take out the garbage
that's a great grief and it's a terrible grief different
and also means that you're in the house now the women's is primarily women's values in the american house
and i like women's is very much but i also like many games
so therefore it can be said that the father now loses his son five minutes after birth

my friend his body others to carry us for nothing
as the ocean carries logs
so on some days the body wales with a great energy and some mashes up the rocks lifting small crabs were fly around the signs
as a knock at the door
we don't have time to dress
he wants us to come william
so the blowing and rainy streets to the doghouse
we will go there the body says
and they are find the father when we have never met
who wandered out in a snowstorm the night we were born
but then lost his memory
and has lived since longing for his shot
it's only once
while he worked as a shoemaker
as a cattle herder in australia as a restaurant cook
who painted at night
when you light the lamp
when you light the lamp you will see him
he said they are behind the door
the eyebrow so having beforehand so light
lonely in his whole body
waiting
oh you

and i don't mean that only the young men and the manner and how are hungry for their fathers the women are two daughters are hungry for their families do you feel it
so many women in the country who wants their fun and to give them a stronger areas life then then he has
two things can be sent of he we can't let his son he can give you for loving them and secondly we have to realize that for about twenty years in this country some of the women have been saying that men have no feeling
and only women have feeling on a women have bunnies it's been a tent and you have to realize that men here that and believe it
so it's a possibility that your father laziness
how could he make a bridge with you when he has no feeling you're told him that
what i'm saying is it if you wish to make a link with your father you have to do it you have to go
should do it before he dies
you can do it after he dies too
as not that much

shall i do this form again leave please

the opening lines are i sort of a little aside to or st paul from my really i'm sick of
the other day the same minister in madison your friend of mine had to read the text and he read to thing and it said and new azure bay guys enjoying the have having ever
and i i i'm to it's nice that you know own how could you have read that disgusting thing
and he said well why would i lowered my voice is low as
what they really are ashamed of that stuff now but then and as ancient would say act on it we had to call a trade convention and remove all of the books of st paul and replaced them with books of yoga
why do we assume that they're the only intelligent people in the world and six seven hundred eighty if they had the right to make this day we went away under i do make them
i don't believe there any smarter in the country
you know if you really read st paul you know what you do we done stuff you call up sigma usa sigmund i got a case here
have some free time
a
the
my friend his body father's to carry us for nothing
how could you be so ungrateful
my friend his body offers to carry us for nothing as the ocean carries loved
so on some days that body wales with it's great energy and smashes up the rocks lifting small crabs or flow around the site
there's a knock at the door
we don't have time to dress
he wanted us to go with him
through the blowing and rainy streets
through the house
we will go there
the body says
the bodies is
and they are find the father
whom we have no a man
two wandered out in a snowstorm the night we were born
who live in longing for his child
ooh me saw only once
while he worked as a shoemaker
as a cattle herder in australia
as a restaurant cook who painted at night

when you like the land
when you light the lamps you will see him he says them behind the door
the eyebrows so heavy
the forehead so lines
lonely in his whole body
waiting
for you

have a good audience going you have a good stomach for grief
like this audience i don't get restless is to feed a more than eat more
give you one more
after having for you
i'll give you one know without to video game
i'm gonna just say it a bit about the beginning in his poem
bhatia said difficulty with most poetry is either subjective or object
most of our poetry has always been subject to we begin in here i know feel good
i think my wages wrong
it's called confessional part
but it's inherent not connected up there
generally all over the am they say if you wish to learn about the gold time you want to learn about the bamboo go to the bamboo on should be written our doors
and it's important that you start out there
you start out there then you come in here and in the process of that you stitch the two worlds together
hear me what i'm saying it you feel a lot of a do that by mentioning the pine tree stitching the two worlds to get images and
so in this particular mom i had i had to have been thinking about my father but what am i going to write about my father and i'm going to talk about this in here i'm i going to talk about a pain am i going to talk about a feeling of reject or my in tampa i'm looking at it wrong
look an entity old american way again the old whitman way i'm so beautiful inside of you can write in thousand lines now
and now
happy
i was a i don't have done an exercise for eight or ten years in which i take an object and i write about it and i just spend time in the morning reading about the object and if it doesn't come out upon fine who says it has to be important the issue is human language is not given to us to communicate with each other in solid grind but we can communicate other wage and of shh
children
human language has given us or that we can meet material coming towards us and we can be active towards it
not pass it when something comes towards you from a dream it's important to take language and go to meet it
if a wonderful tree is out there don't just say wow
and in the sixteen satire language and was
that's called passivity
the idea if you see a tree that really strikes you you'll get your language has been created by our ancestors for two thousand and five hundred thousand years and you take this language when you go to the tree and you try to meet the force coming towards it with their human for some i say anything to jail
and there's a wonderful thing it doesn't matter if it's a poem or not it doesn't matter if it's good
friend of mine once was interviewing really been stafford new said tamil you know roberts said to to write a poem every day is this true that's what build us as he begins writing a poem in the morning is up at five thirty rights and a poem and six thirty children gaddafi mix backers with them and doesn't understand goes after school than if it isn't finished you push it up in place between the kitchen and dining room and then when it gets
home at lunch he writes some on and and and if it still isn't finished at night he works on finished at home everyday so she said to him well what do you do if you're not very good that day he said i just lower my standards
hard your high standards
fox i was wonderful i love the ideas that the language it's loan amount lead the superintendents of high schools judge whether it's good issue
you know i don't mean
so
but at the moment you're doing and you don't care if it's going to bed at all
attard be doing it continual okay let's go on so i do have no wanting to say thing on my father and i was doing an exercise there's some students i went to visit bloomington and i said let's all right on something
so someone should i said to the teacher do have a you have a are you on the country's said yeah i said would you bring in something that looks good from way in your backyard and okay so he came in with a log about his big stickied found out new words and was bent like and he put it on the table and we all went to work on it was nine or ten nine i
went to work on and instantly i looked at and then looked like a leg
a cook and leg
it looked like my father's crooked leg
it doesn't have one
so i wrote about it and then it we became my crooked legs
then i kept on going with that i wrote a post from that night that day about it then i worked on it for a few months and i realized i had to decide whether it was my lego my father
how it makes these decisions
decided was my father's
so then i did a lot of work on that log in or convention of it looking poem you do a lot of work on a log in the the looking occupies as the point
because she's subject of an object objective mom
in this case none of it as any good
stuff i wrote on the i wasn't any good went to design anyway i kept working on it and and then i as well as i worked on into to and i put it into then i didn't like it proposed more form and i sorted into lines going down anxious and then was holes in it
so i took it and it understands the phone and then there's clear with the homes were
i'd have a lump just right for a stanza my next stanza two nines only is what's missing
when i don't want to say
but i didn't mind saying why does the home so i kept showing it down and had the image came from my friend don hall who did a are some work with henry moore and he was a one day in a young student came in with a little statue of apollo in plays that he'd done and showed it to henry moore henry moore said that he said there's some
thing wrong with this he said to henry and they should well thought out to florence yeah looks them
as very nice something a little wrong i understood under florida
so so i manage industries born it's called my father's wedding nineteen thousand and four

today
lonely from my father
i saw a log or branch long bent ragged by gone
it made me lonely for my father when i saw it
it was a log that leaning my uncle's old milk wagon
some men live with an invisible limp stagger or drag a leg
their sons of no angry
only recently i thought doing what you want
is that like limping
and needs contacts in a sandwich
have you seen those giant bird of bhutan men were burnt masks and pink noses dancing and dog's teeth sometimes dancing on one bad leg they do what they want
a dog's teeth say that
but i grew up with our dogs chase
notice how many respectable men have been lately
i go up with our dog's teeth
i learned to walk swiftly easily no trace of them
i even leapt a little
guess where my defect is
then what
if a man cautious pages lamb
somebody has delivered
the surroundings do it
other people do it
the house walls get scars the car breaks down by car always broke down the car breaks down matter in drudgery takes it up
on my father's wedding day
no one was there to hold him
novel only us l them
because he never ask for pity his friends thought he was home
walking alone he could carry it
he came in limping it was a simple wedding so or four people
and the minister dressed in black lifting the book called for order
and the invisible bride step forward
before his own right
he married the invisible by not his own
in her left breast she had to three drops that wound and kill
and he already had his bark like skin then made rough especially to repel the sympathy that he wanted
didn't need
and wouldn't accept
some other words or it
when the service is over
i hold him in my arms
for the first time
and the last
after that he was alone
and i was alone
he invited a few friends in
is two story house he turned into a forest
where both he and i ah
the hunter

on my father's wedding day

no one was there to hold him

the

no the loneliness ld
because he never asked for a pity
his friends thought he was home

walking alone you can carry it

he came in limping
the
three or four people
then the men in black lifting the world
the harder
and the invisible bride step forward
before his own guide
he married the invisible bride not his own
you know people and say the
he married the invisible bride not is on
he and his skin
there's already park life
the
in order to reject the sympathy many in
it name
and wouldn't accept

so other words i'm man
oh
when the service is over
i hold him in my arms
for the first time
and the last
after that he was alone

and i was alone
he invited few friends in
is true story house