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Resilience - Our True Nature
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Buddhist practice and teachings on personal and communal resilience that can help us to heal into wholeness.
02/22/2021, Tenzen David Zimmerman, dharma talk at City Center.
This talk discusses the concept of resilience from a Buddhist perspective, focusing on both personal and communal aspects amidst the COVID-19 pandemic and socio-political challenges. The speaker emphasizes resilience as an aspect of the spiritual path, involving self-awareness, mindfulness, and adaptability. Moreover, the narrative addresses resilience in community, advocating for connections that transcend adversity and celebrating diverse cultural stories. The integration of Buddhist teachings with contemporary social justice issues, such as racial inequity and systemic oppression, is also explored.
Referenced Works and Concepts:
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"Black and Buddhist: What Buddhism Can Teach Us About Race, Resilience, Transformation, and Freedom": This collection is highlighted for its insights into navigating racial challenges through Buddhist teachings, providing a perspective on resilience.
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"How to Be an Antiracist" by Ibram X. Kendi: Mentioned in relation to ongoing cultural renaissances, Kendi's work provides context for understanding resilience within racial justice movements.
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Thich Nhat Hanh's Concept of Interbeing: This term is used to describe interconnected existence, reinforcing the talk's emphasis on communal resilience and interconnectedness.
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Chögyam Trungpa’s Teachings: Referenced for the idea that every experience is workable, linking personal resilience to adaptability.
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Larry Yang's "Awakening Together: The Spiritual Practice of Inclusivity and Community": Questions from this work highlight the importance of collective healing and inclusivity within spiritual practice.
AI Suggested Title: Resilient Spirit: Buddhist Pathways Forward
An unsurpassed, penetrating and perfect dharma is rarely met with, even in a hundred thousand million kalpas. Having it to see and listen to, to remember and accept, I vow to taste the truth of the Tathagata's words. Good morning, everyone. It's an honor and joy to be with you all. And just want to take a moment to scan through the field, this Buddha field, and see all of your radiant faces and presences manifesting from who knows where. Thank you for arriving in this very moment in this interconnected virtual way. What a joy and honor again to be with all of you. So this morning, I want to begin by recognizing how long we've been in this situation of navigating a pandemic.
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It's somewhat shocking to think it's actually coming up on a year now, a year that our respective communities and households had to hurriedly jump into pandemic pods, what I like to think of as life rafts. and push off from the familiar land of our daily routines and comforts to become refugees of sorts on the wide open and unfamiliar waters of COVID-19. And while finally, 12 months later, there are now several COVID vaccines available. The distribution has been slow, unreliable, and inequitable. So we remain with this kind of lingering uncertainty about when we'll all be able to return once more to the shore of so-called normalcy, although I'm sure some of us don't actually want to return to that particular shore as it was before for various reasons.
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Humans are very adaptive, and yet we live in stressful times. It's only natural that we've been experiencing heightened levels of distress, anxiety, fear, and concern for ourselves and each other during this time of great upheaval. And while some of us may have been able to adapt, many of us are struggling. I confess I find myself struggling at times, particularly Curiously, the first several months of January, I was like, okay, it's a new year. Isn't this nightmare over yet? Enough already. Have any of you felt the same way? I see a few nods. Recently, I felt validated for feeling what I've been feeling after reading several articles about how many people are having the experience of hitting the pandemic wall, as it's called.
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It's a phrase that captures a particular and sudden feeling of spiritual and emotional exhaustion with life during COVID times. And it makes sense. We've been at this for a year now. And our fight and flight system, the emotional reaction to stress that has been otherwise energizing us throughout this pandemic, helping us to kind of go, go, go, it's totally overloaded. And when that happens, the constant flow of adrenaline starts to drain and an apathy sets in. And it leaves us feeling somewhat, I don't know, my experience is kind of unmotivated or disinterested, somewhat, you know, kind of just stuck in certain areas of my life, our life. And from what I read and the conversations I've had with others, it seems that many of us have gone over that tipping point and we reached this place of burnout.
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And this is understandable. It's important to acknowledge that what we're going through on both a personal and a collective level isn't normal. What's being asked of us as human beings and as a collective body, it's challenging. And yet life goes on. And we're so faced with the question of how can we continue and thrive in the midst of this pandemic and the midst of so much change and loss in our lives? And furthermore, Can we consider whether this pandemic time, despite its challenges, might offer us new possibilities, new horizons, and even more meaningful connections with each other?
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Over the course of the past year, I've often reflected on our human capacity for resilience and how it is that we might rely on our Buddhist practice in particular to cultivate various aspects of resilience. So this morning, I'd like to share with you a few thoughts on both personal resilience and also communal resilience. And due to the coronavirus pandemic and other issues, ongoing forms of distress at this time, including racial injustice, climate crisis, and economic inequality, to just name a few, many of us are continuing to feel certain, well, uncertainty, imbalance, and destabilization. And how each of us navigates this time of sustained
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distress and uncertainty is based in part on our own ability to self-regulate, to gain an internal sense of composure, uprightness, and purpose. Our resilience when encountering stress, adversity, and change depends on our inner resources as well as our external resources to some extent. So how we acknowledge, work with, and recover from adversity will determine the degree of its lasting impact, including the degree that we might feel traumatized by circumstances. Rather than fall apart when encountering adversity, when we are resilient, we can become stronger as we face it and learn from it.
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Wisdom and spiritual maturity can be found through cultivating our capacity for resilience. The Dictionary defines resilience as the power or ability to return to the original form, position, et cetera, after being bent, compressed, and stretched. Also, bringing back into shape, elasticity. And third, ability to recover from illness, depression, adversity, or the like, buoyancy. So resilience is the act of rebounding, of being flexible, to take a leap and arise to the surface again. It's being able to get up when one's been knocked down or to be able to put oneself back together after we've been broken apart in some way.
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And resilience is both an inner capacity, a deep inner power It's a part of our natural endowment. And it's one that we can cultivate with practice. And resilience is related to perseverance, which is also critical for the spiritual path. Now, from a Buddhist perspective, the best way to think about resilience is in the context of a path of practice. In other words, whatever arises on our path, including challenges, obstacles, adversity, and difficulties, can all be woven and integrated into the context of a practice path. So everything, both so-called good and so-called bad experiences, serve as integral parts of the journey toward liberation. Actually, from a Zen perspective,
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There's not some other path that's free of obstacles that we're trying to get to. Whatever we encounter is the only path there is. I heard a story about a group of Western Buddhist teachers who went to see the Dalai Lama. And they asked him, what is the most important piece of advice that you can give us? And the Dalai Lama replied, and this is somewhat of a paraphrasing of what he said. What is most important is that people have the strength of heart and wisdom to make any situation into a path of awakening. Now, this is a pretty radical statement, to make anything into a path of awakening. And we can envision a lot of difficult experiences that we wouldn't wish on anyone And yet it's a path of liberation and awakening.
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Chunggyam Chungpa in a similar vein said, every experience and every situation is workable. Every experience and every situation is workable. So nothing is static or fixed. And when we see a situation as overwhelming, It's because, in part, we're unable to see the doorways and the turning points to help change the situation or at least change our relationship to the situation, which is really where our freedom lies. Now, resilience can be a bit of a buzzword, and it's particularly a buzzword at the moment, and it's possible to explore resilience. but many number of different angles, including psychological, physical, and spiritual, as well as in the context of Buddhist teachings.
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And so for the purposes of this talk, I thought I'd briefly offer five Dharma-oriented skills for cultivating resilience that we can engage on a personal level. And then for the latter part of the talk, I want to move into sharing some thoughts about communal resilience. So the five personal resilience skills I want to share are self-awareness, attention, letting go on a physical level, letting go on a mental level, and finally assessing and sustaining positive or wholesome emotion or affect, you could say. So... The first skill necessary for resilience is that of self-awareness. And self-awareness is foundational because it's the first step in moving out of reactivity when we encounter adversity, out of reactivity and into responsiveness.
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And if we're aware of what's going on for us in our bodies, our minds, and our hearts, including our feelings and our motives and our desires, and we're able to meet it all with a measure of self-acceptance and compassion, then we're able to better discern what we might need in the moment in order to take care of ourselves. Obviously, having a regular meditation practice supports us. in cultivating self-awareness. Because it supports us to tune into, to notice and stay open to whatever experiences we might be having at any moment. The second skill supporting resilience is attention. The capacity to have both stability and flexibility in terms of one's focus.
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So attention or mindfulness. is essential in being able to maintain stability and a constancy of awareness to note and track what is happening right here and right now without becoming distracted. When we're able to maintain our focus on our practice attentions, whether it's simply staying focused on the breath when we're meditating, or vowing to meet others who we find irritating or disagreeable, to meet them with patience and kindness. Then we have a supportive through line, or think of it as a touchstone, to help us stay grounded in the midst of any distress or uncertainty that might be arising. There's a lot of teaching in Buddhism and Zen.
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about cultivating flexibility or pliancy within our mind. So it's a softness, a suppleness, which has the capacity to bend and respond in accord with the moment. Rather than habitually reacting based on our past experiences that we kind of unconsciously overlay on the reality of the present moment. We're instead able to respond in accord with what's actually happening right here and right now. And this is what we cultivate in Zazen, this particular capacity, developing the mind of equanimity, of stability. When we do this, we begin to discover that there is space and time within which to see and move with intention rather than reactivity.
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A third, a third skill related to cultivating resilience is that of letting go, of not holding on. And this is a letting go in both a physical and a mental level. Obviously, part of cultivating resilience entails taking good care of ourselves physically, including eating well and getting enough sleep and exercise and being in an environment in which you can find avenues to feel safe enough to nourish and restore ourselves. And that's the granting side, the giving side of resilience. There's also the renunciation or letting go side of resilience. And this form of letting go on a physical level means we allow ourselves to relax and release grasping throughout the body to notice the places where we hold tension, anxiety, and aversion.
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And just the simple act Bringing awareness to these experiences often helps them to change, to shift in some way. There's a way in which bringing awareness to areas of contraction, tension, and holding in the body can allow them to release, to let go, to let flow. Sometimes I think this process, using the analogy of sunlight, melting a snowman. Some of you may have seen me with my little snowman, snow globe analogy. So the warm sunlight of awareness, it melts the old frozen karmic conditioning and energy in our bodies so that it can be freed. And this happens slowly at times. It's an ongoing process.
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And this letting go is tapping into a sense of rest and ease that's deeply within our bodies. It's a place of knowing our original embodied sense of wholeness and confidence. The other level of letting go is a mental one. And it's important during times like these to be able to let go of the various thoughts and stories and narratives and opinions and judgments and, gosh, worries, et cetera, that we have about the situation, about ourselves and others, and to instead rest in direct awareness or direct experiencing. And in meditation, we're encouraged to let go of thinking, to allow the mind to rest, to have a break from its chattering and spinning, and be able to return to silence.
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Its original, its original voice, you could say. When we're caught, In our deluded stream and eddies of thoughts and emotions, reactivity and beliefs tethered to our ingrained habits, there is very little resilience. Rather than buoyancy, we simply get pulled under further to the point where we find ourselves basically drowning in our own minds, our own deluded feelings. whirlwind of thoughts, whirlpool of thoughts. Letting go is rooted in one of the key principles of Buddhism, which is impermanence. Another way to think of impermanence is as the capacity for new beginnings. For example, when we meditate and have lots of wandering thoughts, we can recognize that each thought is a new wandering thought.
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a new beginning. All thoughts come and go. And when we see this, then we can have a new beginning. All we need to do is consciously, and yet to a certain degree effortlessly, bring ourselves to the present moment. In this sense, all thoughts liberate themselves in the present. There's nothing you need to do about them. You don't need to engage with the thoughts. When you don't engage with them, they actually liberate themselves. Moment by moment, all thoughts dissipate due to impermanence. All you have to do is bring yourself, bring the mind to the immediate sensate experience. Direct attention. consciously participate, actively engage in the present.
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And when you do this, then the thoughts liberate themselves in this very moment, right here, right now. It's the only moment we need to be in. It's the only moment we can be in. The next thought comes, thought after thought comes, and they liberate themselves. And again, there's nothing you need to do with them. Then your sense of well-being is no longer dependent on or rooted in what kind of thoughts you have, what kind of thoughts you think you have to have, or how you tend to feel in the moment. Basing our sense of well-being on what we think or feel is precarious. Because our thoughts and feelings are unstable. They're not dependable. They're not reliable in any way whatsoever. And they'll often be hijacked and influenced by the conditions of the external world.
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When things are going well and favorable, everything's good. But if things are getting worse and unstable, and they're not so good in our opinion, then we become anxious and depressed. Obviously, this is not a good way to live. We want to be in a place in which even when everything is not going well, we still see hope. We see an opening. We see possibility. Why? Because everything is a new beginning. This is what practice is about. always taking a leap into the next moment by letting go of the past, letting go of the last moment. The final skill I'll share for cultivating personal resilience is that of accessing and sustaining positive, or I think of it as wholesome emotion.
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And this is the buoyancy aspect of resilience, not to give in to negative or what we could think of as sinking mind, but to connect to a mind of aspiration and possibility. So having positive emotion isn't about being a Pollyanna, being blindly optimistic, but about having a flexible mind, a mind that can reframe the circumstances, and we frame them as practice opportunities. This means to relate to all types of experiences as potential pathways for self-discovery and liberation. What can this situation tell me about my conditioned, limited views and tendencies towards self-clinging? How might I reorient any negative mental habit patterns to instead embrace attitudes that are loving, kind, compassionate, grateful, and inclusive?
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Can I look at what is challenging as ways to strengthen my practice, to transform harmful mental states and emotions into beneficial orientations focused on truly transformative change. So these five skills related to cultivating what I'm They give us personal resilience, self-awareness, attention or mindfulness, letting go physically, letting go mentally, and assessing and sustaining a positive or uplifting mind. They allow us to respond rather than to react to adverse circumstances. They support having a sense of personal agency,
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and choicefulness. Having a sense of agency is one of the key factors, in fact, and not having adverse situations become dramatically embedded in us. While we might not have control over the external conditions, we can cultivate a capacity for internal regulation. That internal regulation ultimately, however, It comes from knowing who we truly are. It comes from a sense of presence and being that is not dependent on or affected by external circumstances. It doesn't orientate itself to them. Spiritual resilience is rooted in the inherent wisdom and compassion that naturally arises from the unlimited, vast Buddha mind.
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I would go so far as to propose that true resilience is a manifestation of emptiness, of groundlessness, of the boundlessness that is our true nature. because it recognizes that all things are empty of an inherent fixed existence. Everything is of the nature to be in continuous flux. Impermanence and dependence origination are the ground from which resilience is made possible. While a lot more could be said about resilience on a personal level, how we as individuals meet, make sense of, and recover from difficult circumstances, I've been also recently reflecting on resilience on a collective or communal level.
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And community at Sangha is always important. But it's even more so now, given our sense of separation in the midst of COVID, it's hard for us to connect outside the these virtual exchanges online. So the question of community now and going forward is important. And this situation gives us a perspective on what matters most. And a perspective going forward regarding what kind of community do we want to foster? And Do we want to form communities around shared values and around what's important to us collectively? So it's important to recognize that the path of practice is not just a personal path, something that we as individuals engage on our own in a solitary fashion.
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It's also a communal one. a Sangha needs to realize and attend to its own shared path of practice, a path that unfolds for us as a collective body-mind, you could say, encountering the way. So we can ask then, what is it that's required to cultivate community resilience? And not just resilience in terms of everyday matters such as making sure everyone is food secure, has shelter, health and safety. But also resilience in the terms of the enduring spirit and vitality of a community or of a sangha. How is it that we thrive as individuals? How it is that we thrive as individuals is intrinsically
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connected to how we thrive as communities and vice versa. We as humans have a capacity to come from a vantage point, you could say, of isolation and separation. Or we can make the effort to come from the vantage point of connection. The Buddhist vantage point is always one of coming from connections. of what Thich Nhat Hanh calls interbeing, our fundamental interconnected existence. Interbeing is another word for emptiness or boundlessness. It is our wholeness, our fundamental wholeness. So a resilient community is one that fosters connection. A resilient community is one that is able to work together to interpret and frame adversity and success within a coherent framework of practice and then intentionally finds ways to support each other as both individuals and as a collective to navigate the way with some degree of
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composure, compassion, creativity, and skillfulness. And the communities we create will ideally not be insular. Our communities gain their resilience from and through diversity. And to the degree that we are limited in our diversity, we'll be limited in our resilience. So how do we conceive of ourselves collectively on a path without our individual paths being considered contradictory? As someone who is European descended and white racialized, my own contemplations, and how to understand and cultivate resilience on both a personal level and a communal level, and through a Dharma lens, have recently been invigorated by a number of books I've read by Black Buddhist authors.
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One book in particular that I found informative and insightful is titled Black and Buddhist, What Buddhism Can Teach Us About Race, Resilience, Transformation, and Freedom. Here's the cover of it, if you haven't seen it. And it's an inspiring collection of Dharma teachings and personal stories that are a testament to courage and wisdom and enduring hope in the face of relentless adversity, harm, and suffering. And coincidentally, there also happens to be a related summit. It's called the Black and Buddhist Online Summit that's being freely offered this week. And it features over 20 leading African descended Dharma teachers offering their wisdom and insights in regard to personal and collective liberation and resilience. And I'll ask Kodo at some point in this to share the links to both the book as well as to the online summit for any of you who might be interested.
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And while many of us may think that surviving a year-long pandemic is difficult. African-descended people have been dealing with the pandemic of white supremacy, racism, and systemic oppression for over 400 years, as have Native Americans, Asians, and other racially marginalized people in this country. And while it's vital that we all recognize and address the profound physical, psychological, and emotional trauma that Black, Indigenous, and other individuals and communities of color have in the past and continue to this day to experience, what is equally noteworthy is their remarkable expression of human resilience and perseverance in the midst of great suffering. In reading Black authors, what is so often apparent is the way that Blackness as a sense of identity
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connection, and community is often the wellspring of their creativity and joy, as it represents for them infinite possibilities and riches. In a recent edition of Time Magazine celebrating Black History Month, which is this month, there is an article by Professor Ibram X. Kendi, who's the author of How to Be an Antiracist. And in the article, he notes several historical episodes, what he calls Black Renaissance. And this includes the 1920 Harlem Renaissance, as well as the art Renaissance, Black arts in the 1960s and 70s. And he says, we are now in the midst of another Black Renaissance. And he writes that the current Black Renaissance is fighting for the freedom of being.
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The Black Renaissance is the freedom of being. Black Renaissance is the freedom of being. What a great phrase. Both Kennedy's article and the phenomenon of Black creative and cultural Renaissance speaks to the resiliency of the human spirit. and particularly our human capacity to creatively recast circumstances of adversity and suffering as pathways to liberation. The Buddha Dharma teaches that our liberation is intrinsically, intricately entwined with that of all beings. So when exploring and celebrating the history of African descended peoples in this country, we can come to recognize that Black history is our history. Black Renaissance is our Renaissance.
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Black liberation is our liberation, regardless of our racial, ethnic, or socially constructed and conditional intersectionalities, the ways that we locate or are located by others in this particular society and culture. So what is it really that brings us together and sustains us, particularly in times of adversity? What are the stories we can tell and share that allow us to have a center of gravity in which there is a binding force, right, pulls us together so that The communities we intend to create can come together. Kind of a magnet quality. What are the liberative narratives we can collectively create and share that are able to integrate all our suffering and conflict and transform it?
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Transform it in a way that brings us closer together. allows us to heal and makes us stronger because we are healing together. As Dharma teacher Larry Yang asks in his book, Awakening Together, the Spiritual Practice of Inclusivity and Community, he asks, what would it be like, even in the complexity, even in the injury and the harm, To break together rather than to break apart. How do we stay in relationship with each other? So how do we? Especially in this time when our communities have been altered in radical ways. How can we identify what it is that brings us together and connects us and restores us to our wholeness?
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We need to have discussions about this as communities, as individuals and as groups. Our collective resilience and healing arises through interrelationship, through engagement, through dialogue. It doesn't mean that's going to be easy. In fact, I find these dialogues often very messy and uncomfortable. And this is part of the process. But it's a conversation that needs to happen, and it needs to happen in real time. And to be allowed to come alive, to keep alive the question, what is it that brings us together? What is it that brings us back to our wholeness as both individuals, as communities, as a species and as part of this world, or maybe just say as this world?
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And what are the shared values that knit and keep us together? So the path of resilience is both individual and collective. For us to thrive as a community, there are parameters and practices that can support us in this challenging and yet transformative work. And Shakyamuni Buddha, in his own time, spoke to practices that contain us collectively. Earlier this week at City Center, we held a ceremony in honor of the Buddha's parinirvana, or a great passing away. And as part of the observation, a passage from the Pali Canon was read, which recounted the Buddha's passing, as well as some of his final teachings. And in closing, rather than offering you a poem, I thought I'd share this passage with you.
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And the passage begins with him counseling the Sangha on how I can prosper and enjoy happiness, even after his passing. And the Buddha said, good friends in the Dharma, I will teach you seven things that are conducive to welfare and happiness. Pay careful attention and I will speak. And then he said, As long as Sangha members hold regular and frequent assemblies, they may be expected to prosper and not decline. As long as they meet in harmony, break up in harmony, and carry out their business in harmony, they may be expected to prosper and not decline. As long as they do not authorize what has not been authorized already, and do not abolish what has been authorized, but proceed according to the precepts and the rules of training, they can be expected to prosper and not decline.
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As long as they remain faithful, excuse me, as long as they remain mindful of desires that lead to unwholesome action and suffering, but do not fall prey to those desires, they can be expected to prosper and not decline. As long as they are devoted to meditation and to letting go of busyness, Every day, it's a reminder for me, particularly, and for Zen Zenit, they can be expected to prosper and not decline. As long as they preserve their personal mindfulness, doing what they do with as much awareness as possible, so that in the future, the good among their companions will come to them. and those who have already come will feel at ease.
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They can be expected to prosper and not decline. And finally, as long as the Sangha members hold to these seven things and are seen to do so, the Sangha can be expected to prosper and not decline. I don't know about you, but I find the Buddhist teachings on these seven ways for a sangha to prosper and not decline very inspiring. And they also highlight, of course, what it takes for a spiritual community to be resilient. Maybe, perhaps, one of the reasons that Zen Center is still around today, coming up now 60 years since it was founded, is that we've been able to, for the most part, follow these practices recommended by the Buddha. And I'm encouraged to realize that all of us here today are here today because we care at some level, not just about our own resilience and capacity to thrive, but also the resilience of our sangha, of our community, of us as a collective.
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Just by being here, we are helping to ensure that this particular path of Buddhist practice and vessel of community is a source of encouragement and nourishment for all beings who choose to rely on it now and in the future. So with that, I want to offer my gratitude for your kindness attention and patience. And after we do the closing chants, maybe we can continue the conversation together. Thank you very much. May our intention equally extend to every being and place with the true merit of Buddha's way.
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Beings are numberless, I vow to save them. Delusions are inexhaustible, I vow to end them. Dharma gates are boundless, I vow to enter them. Buddha's way is unsurpassable, I vow to become it. Thank you very much to Abbott David and thank you very much to the assembly. Just a quick announcement before we move into Q&A period. We have a practice at Zen Center called move up, move back in terms of our communication, which is worded a little bit like this. To encourage full participation by all present, take note of who is speaking and who is not. If you tend to speak often, consider moving back and vice versa. If you'd like to participate in this conversation or in the conversation by asking a question or making a comment, you can raise your hand.
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In the old version of Zoom, there's a raise hand function in the participants window. And in the newer version of Zoom, you can open the reactions section and raise your hand that way. I will be happy to unmute. Wake, attentive silence is also a form of communication, just being together with each other, presencing, while something else comes forward for you to actually verbalize in time. Susan. Hello. Hello, Susan. Thank you so much.
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Your enthusiastic, energy for this difficult topic is really helpful to me. So thank you very much. And I want to admit that I've been in a couple situations recently where diversity was the topic. And I have felt like the weight of resistance. Both, I was in a broader conversation yesterday with people way beyond our Sangha who were really advocating for how much people like to be with people who are like them. It was very heavy. And then I was in another conversation recently where I felt like the energy to take a step, to actually be brave, to break the mold, to do something that hasn't been done before,
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was not being supported. And that's where I like to play, right? What can we do that's kind of almost dangerous, you know, to break it up. So that sinking feeling, and I'm used to being resilient. So I can feel the weight of this. And I'm wondering, yeah, I know you just talked about this, but could you talk about it a little bit more about the weight of this, this challenge to change the way we do things that we can't even see our way out of. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for that question. And I feel that too, often. And what I keep coming back to, what I find helpful is to come back to this deeper, what Suki Roshi called, what's the most important thing. And I have to kind of reorientate myself when that resistance comes up in me and in the people around me.
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I keep coming back to what do I truly, truly want? And it's not just in the head thing. It's actually I want to feel it throughout my whole being and my whole body and in my heart. And when I can come back to that, I want to feel connected. And I want to feel connected. that I'm healing into wholeness and that I can't do this alone. That helps me. It gives me the space to actually hold the resistance. And it helps me kind of actually understand the causes and conditions for the resistance. I'm a conditioned being. I've been conditioned by my society, by everything around me, to have certain biases that are harmful. in a number of ways when I act on them and express them and perceive the world through them. And if I can understand that it's not my fault, this is the way I've been conditioned, and this is the way that we have all been conditioned, then there's this opening that happens.
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There's a little space for me to say, okay, there's resistance. I understand where that resistance is coming from. I know it myself. I'm familiar with it myself. I understand this level of fear and not seeing and not understanding that keeps me from stepping out of my comfort zone. And that includes to being able to be with people who aren't like me. Whatever that means. I mean, what does that mean at some level? What are the ways that we... What's the word? dice and, you know, chop up through our perceptions, who is and isn't like me, you know? And we're conditioned in ways to do that. So when I can come back to that, oh yeah, here it is, our messy karmic conditioning. It's coming up again. Okay. And what do I want to hold that with? And I, you know, it's like boundless mind of Buddha, the boundless body of Buddha.
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And I really try to feel that in me and allow that to hold both the aspiration and the conflict and the resistance. And with a sense of kindness and compassion for others, but also for myself, this is hard work. But for me, and it gets truer and truer that my liberation is intricately connected to everyone else's liberation. So if I'm not creating, if I'm not working towards a liberation that is radically inclusive of everything, not just this one, not just this location, the Dharma position, but all Dharma positions, then there's some way that I'm still bound. And I can feel that in any contraction. Any contraction is a signal of being bounded. by our limited thoughts and ideas.
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And that's always a point to me. It's like, oh, there it is. Yeah, okay. Maybe I can't do anything about it in the moment, but maybe I can not do anything about it in the moment and not make it worse, not act on that boundedness, not act on that reactivity that's coming up as much as I can. So my concern is when the... when the resistance meets the enthusiasm, that the resistance starts to feel like it's killing the enthusiasm. But what I'm hearing you say is widen, widen, because the enthusiasm can also be tight. So thank you. And the enthusiasm sometimes, you know, I notice it also can come across and this is how it should be, right? My idea of how it should be. enthusiasm and that's also a bounded that's a bounded idea because it leaves out the relationship it leaves out the conversation you know so we have to be careful with when we get you know self-righteous about you know look what i'm doing you know it's like nope that's also problematic so thank you susan thank you david
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Yeah, so I just, I guess I want to bring it up an example of, you were talking about holding positive energy and buoyancy and being boundless. And actually something that's happened to me through this whole pandemic is when we first started doing Zoom meetings, I thought, oh no, you know, my city college doing that, but it's like, no, this is closed down. But over time I started exploring more and more Zoom groups. you know, through Eventbrite and other sources, I have become a part of some really, really close groups. And one is a meditation group that's incredibly diverse ethnically. And another is where we just get together and we watch TV and movies. We talk about it. But we just like we're all over the country and we just look forward to seeing each other. And we tell each other that in these meetings. And after the pandemic is over, we're all swearing that we're going to keep keep it going. And so that's something that's been really amazing for me, but it's partly me jumping into things and just go like, okay, I'm going to try this. And okay, that didn't work, that didn't work, but oh my God, look at this.
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So that is something that's fantastic that's come out of the pandemic for me. I miss other stuff, of course, but that's something I just wanted to bring up. So thank you. Thank you. Yeah, the silver lining in the midst of the adversity and also our creative spirit. Okay, well, we can't connect in our old ways, How can we connect in new ways that we didn't imagine actually would be? So I find Zoom can be very heartful. The whole field of the screen is just radiating this great connection and love and caring at times. That transcends this perception of a box. So I'm so glad you had to have that experience. May it all continue for all of us. Thank you again. Thank you so much. By the way, I was in your anxiety and depression transformation. I loved it. And I'm signed up for the next one. So the next little follow up. So thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Great. Thank you, Tammy. Take care. Hello.
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Thank you for the talk first. I just kind of wanted to expand on what I think it was Tammy said just now. At the beginning of the pandemic, I was very new to the practice. And I had no, where I live, I have no access to a sangha. So at least not on a regular basis. I don't live too far from San Francisco, but it is a little bit of a drive. I found that having access to... to Zoom has really enriched my practice and I really appreciate it. It's basically, I just wanted to say that. Great. Well, I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you're part of this online practice realm. It's wonderful to connect in this way. Thank you. Kodo, are there others? Let's see.
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Maybe time for one or two more. While the next question is bubbling up, I will put into the chat a link to an online intensive that is about to start with San Francisco Zen Center. So you're welcome to see that. Norman and Kathy Fisher will be teaching on Ehe Dogen's Zui Monkey. And I see a question from Lynn. Hi, Abbott David. So great to hear you. Wonderful to connect. Yes. I got a bluebird of happiness carved for me in New Orleans by a man whose name on the back is one that I never, ever see. And I've looked to find him so I could get one for my sister. He's in New Orleans and his name is Ralph Schechnader. I don't even know how to pronounce it, but there's a woman on this.
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I've been looking for Ralph for five, six years, and now there's a woman with his last name. Vina, I don't know if you're related to New Orleans Shectators, but it's kind of a wild coincidence that you're here. I don't know if you know Ralph or... I'm sorry. Go ahead, Veena, if you want to respond. Oh, wow. So that's, I don't know, that may be one of my family members. So there's a lot of us. I am from Southwest Louisiana and a lot of my family is in New Orleans. So I'll have to call out some of my dad and my mom and see. I'm sure that's one of my family members. I'm pretty sure. Oh, wow. We'll have to exchange information or something later.
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When I saw your name, it was a great connection. How wonderful. Well, maybe Kodo can help you to facilitate connecting, continuing the connection and see what happens. Actually, it would be beautiful if that was indeed the case. And even if not, you got to connect in this way, which is equally this beautiful bluebird of happiness. So thank you all. Thank you. I'll go through CODA. Okay, Lynn. Take care. We have one more question from Tova. Hello. Hi, David. Well, it's wonderful to hear about that synchronicity in the last two speakers. And thank you for your talk. It's so helpful to think about resilience, both personal and community. And I listened this morning to the first talk in the Black and Buddhist Online Summit.
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It was given by Spring Washam, an African-American insight teacher. Speaking of... Harriet Tubman. Right. Yeah, that was great. Yeah, so she talked about how Harriet Tubman kind of became a presence in her life since the pandemic started. And she's now writing a book about Harriet Tubman. And this awakening for her and connection was realizing that she was cut off from her own history as an African-American woman and how what she's been doing is reading and reading and studying and feeling a lot of joy in reclaiming her full and how this is blending with her understanding of the Dharma. So what I wanted to, I have a question about how that fits with this, what you talked about as coming from the sense of
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of boundlessness, how can we also come from fully embracing our racial conditioning, you know? And she mentioned a white person who assisted Harriet Tubman. Can we learn about the people in our, for those of us who are white racialized, you know, in dealing with white supremacy culture and how it's so much part of our being and we're unconscious of it. How does that fit with the work we're trying to do to become anti-racist for those of us who are white with this sense of boundlessness? Are we bypassing something there?
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That's my question for you. I remember when she actually said at one point, because it stuck with me, and I almost began to argue back on the screen with her. She said, white people don't know their history. They're disconnected from their history. And as someone who I very much know my Mennonite history, going back to 1732, when my Mennonite ancestors came from Switzerland who were fleeing religious persecution. And my family has this book that includes every family member going back to 1732 of all the Zimmermans. And so I was thinking, number one, I was thinking, it's not always true that just because you're white racialized, you're disconnected from your history. and your ancestors, it can be the case. And there can be ways that those of us who are white racialized hold our sense of ancestry in a slightly different way.
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So I do think just as many African descended people are disconnected for various reasons from their history, oftentimes because they were ripped from the context and the relationships that helped them to create a sense of ongoing history. I think there are similar ways that through the cultural whiteness that we haven't always maintained our sense of connectedness in history, but it's also been curated and limited to a very narrow field, right? And we don't see the ways that that line is actually a whole field of connectivity. So I think about that when I think of all the kind of racial identities in this country, how we as a whole, Our narratives are deeply intertwined, both as individuals, but also communities and as a country. And it's important, I feel, that we name the narratives, that we identify the narratives and the stories that we have, bring them to light, understand, you could say, our ancestry.
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As you know, Tova, ancestry is very important in Zen. We track our Buddhist ancestry all the way back to Shakyamuni Buddha and before. The sense of our... connectedness in everything that we've inherited through all time and space that brings us here in this moment and is sustaining us and holding us in which we're going to convey to the future in some way by our very actions and words. That's what I appreciate about Zen and Buddhism is really that cherishing of this narrative. But in my mind, it's a narrative of liberation. It really talks about What is the path of freedom? What is the story of freedom that we can create and manifest and envision that takes the suffering that's true? It's true suffering and transform it in a way that doesn't bind us and limit us in some way. And so this using the narrative, whatever that might be, it might be our
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racial history narrative. It might be our narrative around gender, sexual orientation, ability, economic, all these narratives, all these intersectionalities, ways that we name and define our place and our connectedness to the wider field. If we can name them and they help us to set a context of the causes and conditions, this is I was talking about earlier with Susan, to see the causes and conditions that brought us to this very moment. And when we can see those causes and conditions, we also begin to be able to see what's a path forward to transform those causes and conditions so they can liberate us. The boundlessness is in knowing we are not limited or defined by our narratives, right? The narratives are conditional. We made them up. We need them as humans. We are narrative meaning-making beings. We need them.
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But they are not ultimately what we are. This open, spacious awareness that is, to a degree, it's inconceivable. I think of it as just luminosity. This luminous quality of spaciousness is holding all this, including the narratives, the conditioned narratives. It runs through them. It's what makes... is what the narratives are made up of. You can't separate it out. And I think because it's what makes them, they, on their own, our narrative of itself is always seeking to go beyond the narrative, to go to the horizon of that particular story in a narrative and leap off into a freedom beyond the narrative. And if we can in our dated activities, understand the way that we as conditioned beings are not limited by our condition and be able to relate to each other from this knowing felt sense of, I am not my race, even though racial identity is a way that I am culturally related to in this society.
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then we can move through these identities in a way that actually help us to free ourselves and others. And this is what's so beautiful. If you read the Black and Buddhist book and listen to some of the speakers in the summit, they keep talking about how it helps us to move beyond our limited. It's not like we're trying to, what's the word? I can't think of the word now, that our racial identity is true beyond all truth. It's true in the moment in terms of how we're related, right? But it's not fixed. You know, we're able to play. So I think of it as playing, playing in this narrative. And can we reshape the narrative in a way that connects us? So did I... In some ways, I said a lot there.
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And I also want to say, yes, Spring Washington talked about how liberating, you know, she trusted in everyone's liberation. She's a Buddhist teacher. How this work she's doing is helping her to find her own full joy in being who she is. Exactly. When she communicates beautifully. Exactly. And I'm thinking with your men in a... ancestry may be one of the reasons or one of the contributing factors to your doing this work around racial justice. Also, knowing that about your ancestry could be helpful. Yeah, definitely. Definitely. As pacifists and fleeing religious persecution. Thank you for helping me see how the pieces fit together with this sense that we are all held in this kind of spaciousness that we can remember that it may help us through some of the difficult moments when we're doing the work that we need to do.
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Well, thank you for all you do with the work. You're very much engaged in this and I feel very supported. I know others in the community do by your efforts. Thank you, David. Thank you. Kodo, I believe we have come to time, correct? We have, according to what I see. Nancy, David, which way do you want to go? So I had my hand up and I just wanted to make a comment and we are at time. And I just wanted to say, I feel as though this conversation is like with Tova's question is so huge. And really it kind of, it's important to have, it kind of puts you on the spot. And I have that question as well that Tova raised. And I think it's hard. What I'm noticing as you're speaking, David, is because we're such a predominantly white bodied sangha and that our teachers are predominantly white bodies,
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as are you and me and Tova and that, that it's, it's, we're still just so off balance to have this conversation, you know? It's a skewed conversation. And I want to hear you speaking side by side with, you know, with the BIPOC teacher and having this conversation, you know, because what you're saying is true and, you know, and, you know, the relative and the absolute, the truth of the complete interconnected and. So we are at time. Thank you for letting me squeeze in. Yes, this is hard work. We have to keep going. So much needs to be done. Well, we have all the time and space to do this. It doesn't stop with this one. So we're so fortunate to be together in community. So I hope we can continue the conversation. So thank you all very much.
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It's been a joy to be with you. Thank you for your practice. Thank you for being who you are. And thank you for showing each other the way. So, okay. Take good care. Thank you. Thank you so much. You should be able to unmute now if you would like. Thank you, David. Thank you, David. Thank you. Many people I recognize. Hello. You're welcome. Thank you. [...] Thank you very much for all the vulnerability today. Thank you, Shannon. Good to see you. Good to see you. See you later. Bye. Bye. Bye, David. Thank you, David. Thank you, Miles. Thank you for your text right before. Yeah. That was sweet.
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In community. Yeah. Totally exposed. Yes. Have a great weekend. Thank you, everyone. Take good care now. Bye, David.
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