This podcast is offered by the San Francisco Zen Center on the web at www.sfzc.org. Our public programs are made possible by donations from people like you. Good morning, everybody. The sound is good. You're okay, Robin? Yeah, maybe I'll be a black eye. No, black eye. Ouch. It doesn't... Thank you. Yeah. Well, okay. This morning, I would like to talk about Adobe's Facetil Cotto Point Lines. The facile appears to be about Dharma Transmission, but I think we already can see that for Nogen, what he means by Dharma Transmission is not just full organization as a sort of dead priest, not just circumcision,

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to be a Zen teacher, or of some Zen understanding, or some kind of mystical ceremony, all these things that we want to think of as the other transmission. Tolkien thinks that the other transmission is the whole practice, the whole practice of the transmission. He thinks that every moment of authentic practice is important of the other transmission. Every moment of Zazek is more about another text. If you repeat, as we repeat so often, texts like Fukasaseni, and especially Jijir Yuzama, in what we just shared, it's a godmark. That's what they're saying, these texts. The whole of the Dharma. The authentic fulfillment of the now.

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It's not just about the so-called here and now. It's this moment inevitably in concert with the whole of the past and the whole of the future is in the depth of this one moment of living. And it comes to fruition. right here. And now, in us, we're not practicing together. And that moment, that full moment, is not a transmission. So, for living, that's what practice is. The secret teachings of the inner room are constantly being revealed. Wherever we look, that's all we understand.

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Okay. Okay, I do. And now, what are we going to do about this? How do we make this real for ourselves? How could we feel this and live it? How could it be what inspires the deeds and thoughts and words of our lives every day? This is really possible. How are we going to So let's see. The word kato means, as I said, twining lines. And I think that, I'm not sure, but I think that twining lines, kato is an actual specific plant. I even vaguely remember, I think, that it's the Kudzu plant.

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It's a planet that actually is invasive all over the American South. Which, and I think it actually got there from Japan. It's just a Japanese, like, snap over enough Kudzu plants to overtake the entire American South. Prison is really hard to get rid of. It's basically impossible. Once it's there, you never get rid of it. And the reason I know about this is because I have a friend who lives at Tuscaloosa, Alabama. I visited him once in a while from the faculty at the university there. And he told me about prison. It's all over the place in Tuscaloosa. The entire town is trying to get rid of the prison when he can't live it. So it's a great image for samsara, right? A great image for the nasty persistence of our own confused minds that seem so perditious as they entangle us again and again and again and suffer.

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And you'll notice this. The more you try to get rid of it, The world grows and proliferates. The only advantage is at least to hear the word of silence. So we can all drive ourselves crazy by ourselves. We don't have to drive each other crazy, but as we order the world, the world at large, twining bodies will entangle us together. into samsara, as we oppress, dishonor, and hurt one another, we watch constantly. And as our gravity and destructive civilization goes on, the pernicious plant creating possible non-entanglement and destructive things

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And see that all of a sudden, I get a big war, a big problem, a big bomb. Or little by little, little by little, little by little gradually. Produce chemicals that wall with it. Cato, 20 minutes, big bomb. And then, specifically, learning minds also takes on meanings of conceptual thought. But as any point of view, the culprit is the conceptual one. That's what's causing all these problems. If we didn't discriminate based on false fantasies, if we weren't so intent on making up

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stories about our lives and the world. We wouldn't create these kinds of problems. So it's the special conservatives in practice to observe, understand, and obtain the conceptual line, or any way. It's not what we think, except practice it. Let's see what Duncan says. So at the very, very beginning of this past book, he tells the traditional story of Zen Baratapush. And into his words, at the assembly of Vulture Peak, only while Akashapa, through realization, we see in Chakramundi Buddha's treasury of the true Dharma I, unsurpassable in light. by direct transmission of authentic realization through twenty-eight generations, it reached the world of Lidardo.

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Lidardo went to China, and it trusted the treasure of the true Lidardo I unsurpassable, and lied to the point that it preferred him as the second asset. So at the beginning, your Drogen is just establishing this ancient custom, person-to-person, face-to-face, warm heart to warm heart, in the correct succession of Buddha down to the present. Since the time that Drogen wrote, there has been a whole like in China that goes through Japan, and now in America, a loss beginning with Suzuki motion. And now there are 92 or 93 generations more coming.

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They say that the dharma passed down this way person to person is like a lamp or a candle with one candle you can light another candle and the light of the second candle is equal and the light of the first candle and the light of the first candle is not going to be made as the same even though it has completely illuminated another candle and you can light another candle and another candle and another candle so that the same light was on the candle to candle. You know, the previous candle was blown out. The light. That candle was on. It's a new light. And yet, it's exactly the same light. As long as this light is passed down from candle to candle, there's gonna be at least a little bit of light in the world.

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And as long as there's a little bit of light, There could be more, more, and more. But not again, I guess there is a thing of 20 parts. Here's what he said. Although there are a number of sages who tried to study cutting off twining lines. They do not regard cutting of twining lines with twining lines, cutting of twining lines with twining lines as cutting through. Also, they don't know intendingly twining twining lines by further intendingly

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Furthermore, how can they understand the inherited 20 gardens? As in, by the transmission of the character, 20 gardens through the 20 gardens. Those who know this, that the parenting Dharma, his 20 lines are there. There is no one who has learned it, and there is no one who has spoken about it. How is it possible for many to get realized? That is what it is done. Don't get us telling us that 20 minds themselves and nasty minds that we're all here to get rid of, to cut off the blues, turns out to be a good content. of this inspiring armor transmission that is on generation, inter-generation to us.

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The light isn't enlightenment or purity or spiritual perfection. It's 20 bucks. It's innovative. that exactly what we're trying to clear up, turn that, cut off, get rid of, is exactly what we're looking for, what we should be looking for. We shouldn't be trying to cut off We should appreciate it. We should take a look.

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See it. Look it. As I believe in truth. This is Nogin's amazing point which I have always appreciated. Notice that he says No one has learned this. No one has spoken of it. Besides that, you know, anyway, he's learned it enough, he's speaking about it. Or, is it? So we all think that the point of that is just To hear that something that is unpleasant and some of my wives said to get something else that would be much better. But we're wrong. We don't know.

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But the real way to cut the tolerated bodies is to plunge right into them. To understand and embrace them and make it all angle up. That's why now it's occurred to you that the effort to escape will not be successful. Maybe you could break out of jail, but you can't break out of you. If you're in jail or out of jail, you're still you. Sorry. You should not be somebody else. Not this life. To practice is to plunge deeply, both hands and feet, into this one person. The paradox that we don't get to say, to transcend ourselves, transcend our suffering, is to fully become ourselves, to fully plunge into our suffering.

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Is this plunging in with the willingness, with love, with understanding. That is the light that the blue is passing on, uninterrupted by all these new sections. And I know you've heard all of this before. You know, you know all this already. It's just like Suzuki saying, Udoji saying, you are just the way you are. It's just like what we heard the other day. Udoji saying to Ananda, throughout the whole past and the whole future, there will always be, has always been, there is now, there always will be a perfect Udoji just like you. Udoji also taught us that when you are really you,

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Ludus will be really ludus. So we all know all that stuff, right? And it sounds good, at least to me. It sounds good. It sounds true. But what does it really need? How do we practice? That's the problem. So next, all you don't know, you still really know people are misdiscussed. Well, they're discussants. the story of the specific instance of one of the past and learned on. Here's the story, and they'll get his words. One said to his students, as the time has come, can you express your understanding? It's all doubtful, said, my credit is that we should rather, we should neither be attached to the others, nor be apart from the others. And we should allow the way to function a feeling.

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And Borei Dada said, you have attained my sin. But none. Zonshi said, my view is that it is like the joy of seeing upshot your goodness man just once. Borei Dada said, you have attained my flesh. Now he said, the four main elements are originally enemy and if I sound as a United citizen, therefore I see nothing to be obtained. But with that, he said, you have obtained my bones. Finally, he went about three times, stood up, and he turned to where he was, and he said, you have obtained my mouth. So the way most people understand this story is that this is a kind of like test.

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Very important. crucial test. All four disciples take a test and Bodhi gets a perfect score, a higher score than the others. He gets the right answer. So he becomes the second answer. The other assumption in that is that there actually is something to the Darwin, which either you get or you don't get. Write your answer than the others don't get it. But then you think about it and you say, well, exactly, yeah, but the others will get it. Let's bother their answers. Why is this answer better? And you really don't know why. So you don't get it.

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I can't really get it. Of course, you don't get it. You're not away getting people. They don't talk to me. It's how you make it right. That's the message. We try not to mention that we don't get it. We figure it out. And I'm sorry, it doesn't look like we can see it. Oh yeah. So this is that you're aware that we understand this. How else could you understand? But that's not what I'm going to get. I understand. More than it. Actually, there isn't. anything at all to the dark.

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But, you know, there's nothing to learn to occur. No special secret understanding that you get dead or not. Then what? This whole thing is just hopes. Just me. Maybe. To me, it's like nonsense. We're wasting our time entirely. Or maybe if there really is nothing behind the curtain, then a whole lot more to the Dharma than he enters with a man. Here's the... Investigate the words of William.

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You have obtained my skin. You have obtained my flesh. You have obtained my bones. You have obtained my marrow. These are the ancestors' words. All four students attainment, they don't understand it. Each one's attainment is skin, flesh, bones and marrow leaping out of body and mind. Skin, flesh, bones and marrow dropping away body and mind. Do not see or hear the answer with a limited understanding of these statements. What was spoken of and heard will not be fully grasped. However, those who have not received authentic transmission, think that body don't as worse, skin, flesh, bones, marrow, are not equal in death.

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And because the views of the four students married, one may seem to be closer than the other, they think that skin and flesh are not as close as bones. and narrow anything. That point that was acknowledged as obtaining a narrow because his view was better than those of the others. But people who think it like this have not yet really studied liquid ancestors and they do not have transmission of liquid ancestors. No. That skin, flesh, bones and an arrow do not mean that one's understanding is deeper than another. Even if there are superior or inferior units, in both of those words, there is only attaining my. It means that neither the phrase, you have attained my mouth, nor the phrase, you have attained my nose, is more essential than the other for guiding a person in holding a breath.

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apple, grass, both beyond it. It's like pulling out a flower and transmitting it all. From the beginning, Obi-Wan-Wan's confirmation of each one was equal. While his confirmation was equal, the four views were not necessarily the same. Logan is saying that all four of these answers are the right answers. And all four of them are the best answers. Maybe somebody will say, well that is legal, but what shall be any great? Just another tale, another conceptual playing on it. We say, you know, this person has a very good understanding of God, but this person has a terrible understanding of God.

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This person has a deep realization. That person has none at all. And they appreciate that. But the skin is marrow. And marrow is skin. I told you it very directly. It says that each way is the best way in yourself. and each way receives the fullness of the Bible translation. He says, you notice, in the odd expression, in what we don't have as words, there is only a caning mind. Only a caning mind. Skin and flesh, we don't need that part. There's only a caning mind. This means that all four of these disciples are each in their own way entangled with the Dharma.

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It is a very entangled and together in the Dharma that is the essential point. No matter what understanding is expressed, it is good. You look at these four views, right? They're all pretty good, right? We're convinced that we read this third thing, there must be something wrong. But I think they're all pretty good. Now, I thought, I mentioned, was a scholar. Or a lecturer. He knew the teachings really well. So he knew that words are very seductive. And you have to be careful with them. Not to be fooled by what I've gotten out. We shouldn't reject the words here, because when beings are a word, use it in animals.

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And they can't be here without the words. So Dafu's teacher is a great teacher. It's a good teacher that comes from his life. And not Islam, she says. My view is that it's like the joy of seeing a Shoggyu Buddha's plan just once. Not again. Maybe she had suffered a lot. The plight of women in those days, unfortunately, those days that are not yet older, was tough. You can read the stories that we just noticed throughout this week when you had a rough time. And maybe In her practice, she had achieved a measure of release and joy. Finally, a little bit of bitterness or pain, she had no. And she's so appreciated that you can't take such joy to do it.

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It is one. to our effort. And it arises and passes away. Just like a moment of seeing. What a beautiful teacher. This was her teaching. It came from her life. Natalie was probably a great meditator. Probably a practice the sixth case to this one. And he investigated the nature of mind and breath. So naturally, his teaching was the four great elements are originally empty and the five scholars do not exist. Therefore, I see nothing to be obtained. How could there be something to be obtained? There's little method to be obtained, nothing to be found anywhere. And this is how we see the values and found.

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Teacher. [...] He's beyond words. I don't think so. I'm pretty sure. Oh, yeah. Tommy had also got some things up. Maybe we're down with our practice period. Has anybody been keeping count how many times have we bowed so far? But they should keep count. Are we able to get one of the blue with liquid?

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I would like to learn, actually. I mean, it's only a good thing inside. I don't know. Many times, any account comes around perhaps the sessions, well, many times that we've got out, a lot of times. Anyway, now, part of the way, a lot of times sometimes, waiting for me to go, you can't visit the other sessions. It sounds like... We appreciate it. Wow. It's a spaceship, right? It's a eloquent, unique respect.

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Maui is also blind. It's the sign of the language of respect and respect. Emotions that are not so common in our secular, contemporary, So it's beautiful that we have a language of respect and purpose, a language of belonging to a long, long human family whose history. It's an expression of loving their family. It's expressing that we are truly desperate on the path. And yes, that was just practice. Remember when you first met bogey-dun, like you said, my mind is at war with itself.

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Please, please help me. The bogey-dun said, okay, show me your mind. After some practice, I can't find any more. Maybe after that, it's not a problem. So there is no good reason at all why Quirka was the second ancestor and not one of the others. There is no good meaning. And then he says this. He says, even if Quirka has said what one of the others said, he can still have it, the second ancestor, anyway. And any one of the others. How they said or done, whatever they said or did, all of a sudden, for this decision, we got good. The second is it.

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Probably everybody here with all the experience of having applied for a job or a school or some kind of program, you took a lot of your application, you were probably doing accomplishments, you went to the interview with Louis Sterling, The expression is to get it off of the interviewer. And you're out. And you didn't get it. And then you're out and you thought, oh, I'm different. And you didn't get it, you thought, oh, I'm different. I just don't know what it takes. But of course, there is no good reason why it's one person and not a good person. There's no really good reason. It's just conditions. Conditions come together in a way that we do, next to so many factors that no one would measure.

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It isn't about one way or another. Of course, what we try best. And then what happens, happens. Whatever happens, you have made the best use of it. So our challenge here is not to figure out what is the secret teacher behind the curtain to become the person who knows the secret teacher. That's not the challenge here. The challenge is to fully embrace and purify your own You need software to fully embrace your own conditions so that you can find linear software and linear conditions, the teacher that you would want to get.

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You are you. Put it up. Put it up. And the whole world lights up. your drama channel takes its way. Maybe some of you were the past may have noticed that what it will be done is for disciples as long as she puts it on. You can notice that it is thoroughly male-dominated world in which it was around 15 minutes ago that women in our western civilized world were allowed to be ordained as clergy in our new dispositions and the Catholic Turks still not able to be ordained. Isn't it impressive that in the 6th century China, probably the most patriarchal realm ever,

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The great Kogi that everyone had, I think I could say that we decided what we were doing. But we also got to decide. Although the ancestral litings that we chant every day seems to be almost all in, or maybe all in, it's not. You know, some scholars think that Polygaras' own teacher, Prajnatara, who's a woman. They don't know if they should have put any scholars, but think of that. How do you guys agree? Are you not supposed to be a leech? If you study the text, you can detect clearly a misogynistic street.

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It appears here and there, the text. It's literally there. That's what you would dare be, but you know, when I ask you to say, I'm just going to get a second or not like that. It's not all of it. It's there. Like a lot of times, these guys get their hands on the history of Texas. Maybe half the people from the fall, they only mean, are actually women. Many, many words after this, though, he goes on, not how. Seeing flash phones in there are all on the inside, they're all on the left side. They're all deep, they're all shallow. And how each and every person who realizes the way it is in a powerful, unique way, will attain the full measure of transformation.

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And he says, after saying all that, with very precise dust, are bits and pieces of leaping up. Teacher, disciple, practice, mutual. What is heard is bits and pieces of leaping up. Teacher, disciple, practice, mutual. Teacher, disciple, practice, mutual. Yes. 20 months. Upward answer. Climbing bodies of the ancestors is the life stream of skin and flesh bones that are taking up a flower and blinking our climbing bodies, breaking into a smile, the skin and flesh bones in them. Every moment of our ancestors is a moment of climbing bodies of the ancestors.

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We entangle ourselves within ourselves, and we entangle ourselves with more of it. Zen practice, especially self-positive practice, was togetherness practice. We sit in general spot, hour after hour, day after day, in this little room, The whole place was like a young, fully trained. Teachers don't teach, and students don't learn. Teachers and the students, they're training over themselves with one another. They practice usually side by side with perfect

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understanding matched by perfect misunderstanding. Every moment of our thinking, feeling and reading and wondering is the quick piece of media of each moment we think of is just another moment in this story that I call my life. Every such moment, a little spark looks out. Every moment in my life, in your life, we can tangle together with everyone and before. Be aware of it, to really appreciate this endless, endless entangle. We appreciate the stained flesh bones and the hell of the truth. to meet the angel and care of the people from Buddha who is equally integral with us.

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Because we are here, inspired by Buddha, the name of Buddha, the words of Buddha, we are bringing the Buddha to life. That's why Buddha means the life in us. But next to that, I'll tell you another story. This one is about larger complex image. Yesterday, I checked out the world. I checked out the world alone. It can be all bad, but it'd be all open. I decided, well, it's just, you know, a big shower, you know, save it easy, and it was probably too old. He just used to play in order to make expressions. Anyway, one day he said, he said to me, Now tell me, to hold in body, I will transmit.

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So, he came forward and said, How about that, how about that? But Johnny also, do not slam it at the second answer. And then he said, if someone who has reached the outside and faced the skin, etc., etc., someone who can reach the inside, tells the moms, and so forth, then tell me, what about someone who has reached the in deeper than that? What did they get? And then he said, what is obtaining the miracle? John said, well, Just know the stick. There is no marrow to be carried out in my body. I said, what is marrow? At that place you don't read in the field of a stick.

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An old asked what does attaining marrow mean, and then Zha Zha said, just know the stick. There is no marrow to depend upon in my body. When you know the stick, there is no need to search for the marrow. This means truly attaining the marrow. Being so, the question of the second answer is to attaining this marrow, how about it? That was to keep. Or if the narrow geek is teaching, it isn't anything. There's nothing to search for. We've been doing with nothing to attain. Which, when we write it up every single day, the arts are good. No attainment. To really understand no attainment. In ways to fully really understand our beings, our sense in your heart. That's the attainment. From this place, there is no spirit.

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But that's not good at people. You're alive. You have to do something. That's serious question. What are you doing? That's why you come to practice. That's why you question. That's why you must investigate. That's why you must inquire. Well, figure it out. It'll get worse when you penetrate. At the moment, a Mrakashapa transmits to Ananda. Ananda hides his body with Mrakashapa. Mrakashapa hides his body with Ananda.

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Thus, at the moment, a teacher and student needing for transmission, the practice of exchanging face, skin, flesh, holes, and marrow cannot be awarded. Because of this, Jarajah said, now say, to cool Midwabhidrama transmits. Buddha Dhamma gives transmission. He is Buddha Dhamma. But the second ancestor attains the ramble. He is Buddha Dhamma. By studying the meaning of this, Buddha Dhamma has continued to be Buddha Dhamma up to this day. If not, Buddha Dhamma would not have reached this day. Why have you pursued and investigated the meaning at this point for yourself when you first? So to really appreciate your own uniqueness, it is necessary that you see that there is absolutely nothing to it.

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You have to say, well, I got it. My uniqueness is my own daughter. So I was going to go ahead and think if you don't need any of them all. And that would be my great teacher. All I have to do is be myself. Perfect. Well, that's true. But not exactly. To really appreciate, really and truly appreciate, the gift you've been given, your uniqueness. You have to be able to throw it away. You have to be able to disappear into another. All the teachers, male and female, of our ancestral lineage have exchanged bodies. They can disappear into one another.

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To be completely embraced by another human being, you have to be capable of embracing another human being completely. You have to be able to exchange skin, flesh, bones, and marrow. When you can do that, when you can fully accept another as yourself and more than yourself, then you are ready to really be yourself. Then you are How do they do it? They don't do it. They don't do it. They don't follow me. They don't follow me. They don't follow me. They don't do it. They don't do it. That's how you do it. Conviting yourself to count every breath at one to ten.

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Lifting and energizing your body. Don't put it all in the heart. Follow the breath in the belly. I'm going to go in. I'm going to go in. I'm going to go in this light. I think last night when it was last session I was talking about all this, I forgot about it. glorify, [...] glorify.

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Just like we do on Wikipedia, walk on, try and switch to make a little bit more light, a little bit more brightness in the breath. So you practice, pass it. And then you're ready to practice discrimination. Seeing that you're constantly in the breath, peaceful, resting with the breath, you won't just let yourself He drove it out too long. He drifted off. He said, oh, I see. Now I'm present with the breath. Now the breath was alive. Now I'm going to watch all parts of it. Maybe get up. [...] Ask it with a stable, focused consciousness.

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What is the math? What is it? Who is me? What is the mind? That's the way I believe. You're not trying to answer the riddle. It's not a test. You're just asking the question. All of the lives that I'm sharing in believe you are just really good. What are you? What are you? What are you? What are you doing? No race can do it and go back to it. So if you practice like this at the Sashun, and all the time, and you go, [...] and live your life. Pay attention to your life. thinking, acting, whatever, and saying what happens.

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It's happening every day all over in a poogie walk. This is the stick, touch, pulse, and now it's in practice. And this is the word talking it through. And you saw it. You cannot do this. It's absolutely impossible. And yet, it happens again. So I go through the poem and I try to attach to it. You know what I'm trying to do? Super quick talk. I'm always distressed. Oh, you're trying to do it. You're trying to do it. So why not? Don't move. That's the kind of a dog. The color is gold. The color is gold. The color is gold.

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The color is gold. [...] You gazed longingly toward the coast. Did you once love someone there? Yes. But it was only a cat. And I, a vanity. Okay. There are only ones in this world for pissing your life away. Even if it means you get to see forgotten highspers of decades ago, peeling off on the mass to guide under the surface, raising a mountain of seeding glass before they lunge back up to start the unknown, careless journey to the best way.

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the way I thought about each day when I was ill. A sloughing off most suicidal and in the middle with a certain ritual risk. But there were so many protagonists, one got quite lost as in the forest on the topple. many things were going on. And the moon poised on the lineage, letting enormous grapefruit, understood the importance of each and wasn't going to make one's task any easier with all we loved. Thank you for listening to this podcast offered by the San Francisco Zen Center.

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