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Alan Watts talk - session 2


This reel was part of the original SR pilot collection, but is not SR speaking.

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i have been stressing a difference between what for want of better terminology we will call the world as is
and the world as described
lots are saying
the not named
is heaven on earth storage and
naming is the mother of ten thousand things
ten thousand things as a literal translation
the chinese way of saying everything
but it must be apparent and clear to understand this
that a thing
is a product of thinking
and you can understand that
accepting what western philosophy calls subjective idealism
the doctrines of people like
barclay and hago and bradley
which assert that the universe is a creation of mind
the difficulty of that is that
we can't find very much meaning in the word mind
already in the idea of differentiating to substances called mind and matter
nobody has ever come up
with any really illuminating ideas
about this differentiation
between the mental on the material
which is so haunted or philosophy
for generations
in my own way of thinking i don't use either concept
either mind or matter
but simply
kate they view of the world which
is basically one are far more pattern
and i explained to you that the word lee in chinese
but which describes the order of the world
means literally the markings in jade
and therefore might best be translated as joseph needham has suggested
and i've shown you in what way that differs from mechanical pattern
mechanical pattern is always describable
it's aesthetics are much clearer to us than those of rather more enjoyable organic patterns
such as we find in towns and waves fire
contours of land and the human body

we don't have to think of
naming or thinking
as the origin of things
quite the same way as an idealist would think of mind as the origin of things
the point is difficult sometimes to make clear because it's so simple
when i say there are no things in the real world
that doesn't mean that the real world if correctly seen
would appear to be void
in the sense of something like infinitely empty space
it means that there are no things in the world as we see it
what we call things
i prefer to call using a pattern word wiggles
in the
wiggles of the world wiggles in the world the world wiggly however you want to put it
because the world is the wiggles and therefore one doesn't really want to say the world wiggles
there is no difference between the world and the wiggles and the wiggles aren't part of the world because they are not mechanical in nature that is to say they're not screwed in and brought from somewhere else ah
so every way go
is the whole world wiggling in the sense that it implies all other wiggles
this is the image that is called and japanese gigi magee
which means literally the chinese say sure sure why and which means assure r a g means a wiggle or racing event
and they literally means between thing event and thing event there is no obstacle
which is the negative way of saying
this world is the mutual interpenetration of all things and events
so that
if a scientist from another universe altogether
where to be given
a fingernail pairing
with sufficient insight he would be able to reconstruct not only the kind of being pompous from which this fingernail pairing was taken but the kind of environment in which that being lived
going out to the outermost galaxies
because every part implies the whoa
that's why it's not a part in the ordinary mechanical sense
indeed playing with words we would say it's not apart from the whole it cannot exist without it
we can see this in holographic photography
the crystalline structure of a photographic negative as such
that if we study a small area of it
we can use lasers to reproduce the whole photograph from which this area was taken now the world's snip a small square out of a negative and laser projection can give you the whole negative from which it was taken
it will be a picture in which the images near the pc snipped out will be relatively clear and the images relatively fuzzy as you go away from it
that is following the rule that some sort of proximity that the thing events in some sort of proximity to the thing event we're talking about will tend to have more relevance to it than those further away
but that's only a vague rule because very often what is most relevant to any given thing event
maybe something that at first sight would appear to be completely trivial that is to say you married somebody you met and tallied by chance
this chance meeting have momentous consequences and we would never have thought of it and making plans we would have thought more rationally that is to say in accordance with a more obvious method of measuring relevance of one thing event to another
but we don't know how to set up the rules of relevance
and so all our laws of logical connections between thing events
laws of causality and laws of ah statistical prediction and so on and so far as i'm really very unreliable

so the point here than is this
a thing or an event
of which the naive person who lives under the influence of western rational scientific mythology
he thinks that the world is an assemblage of things and events
not realizing
that a thing is a unit of thought
in the same way that for example inch as a unit of measurement
or a bit of information is a unit of information theory
you can see at once that a thing is arbitrarily designated because everything you can think of can be subdivided into smaller things
all made a subdivision of a larger thing
so what we find is this
a thing is any area of the world
which can conveniently be represented by a concept
and so when we asked what is a wiggle
you can imagine a picture of a coastline and it suddenly projects as what we call a cape
now we see clearly that the cape isn't really separable from the coastline often the land one could say the land capes at this point that's a caper
but there isn't a thing called a cape but you can say begins exactly they're there and comes to him climax out there just in the same way there is no actual rigid line which divides your head from your neck and your neck from your shoulders
nor is there a place where the shoulders end and the trunk begins or does the trunk include the shoulders
i showed him the same way that if we wanted to find the sun
we do so rather arbitrarily that naive view being the sun is where
the visible flames terminate
some people might get persnickety about that and say that's too much because the flames come up from the liquid body of the sun or whatever it is and or that's where the sun ends the flames are merely excrescences well it's just a matter of opinion let's define it as where it hits its heat reaches to
let's define it as where it's light reaches to
it's a matter of opinion
and we talk with each other and understand each other because we decide arbitrarily that we will agree about certain opinions
or maybe it's not so arbitrary maybe somebody forces it upon us
because a government dictates what shall be the language spoken what shall be the conventions of communication as when the british government recently decided to alter the way of counting money with disastrous inflation as a result a hunt
or when it's going to be decided about the united states government that we will drop inches and feet and all that kind of thing and go onto a metric system meters and song
so somebody sets up the standards
it's originally really very arbitrary as to how much of a much as an inch and how much of a much as a meter meter as a sudden fraction of the us
to come from
so what that's a way of starting out or reckoning and at one starts out with something which everybody will somehow give assent to
but the point is that
the division of the world in tomatoes is as arbitrary as it's division into things
only since there are
features that is to say celestial bodies which are generally speaking globular
floating in space
we are inclined to regard them as separate units because they are separated by space but i pointed out to yesterday that space joins the world together as much as it separates it that it's a kind of a
to way phenomenon
that in other words i am i and you are you by virtue and by virtue only have a space between us
and in that sense space differentiates us
but by differentiating us
it joins us together

it makes as it were a unity of differences
we see this when we get far enough away from it
then these and vastly distant stars are seen as a galaxy we say a galaxy
and if we got far enough away from all the now known galaxies we would see a universe and call it a thing
it all depends where you look from what language you talk
and how your group has decided and agreed among itself to figure it
so therefore a thing is really think

and it's in that sense that i mean there are no things in the world
without implying at the same time of the world the real world is featureless
this is a mistake commonly made by students of indian philosophy whether they be western us all indians
when they hear about the highest state of consciousness
in which there are no things
they imagined that the highest form of consciousness should be a samadhi
which is
so abstracted from what we've been call norman normal perception that one is as it were floating and avoid which may be luminous or move
as in spiritual drawings
but i don't think that's what it does it all of course you can get into a state like that yes
you can buy auto hypnosis get yourself into almost any state of consciousness you can imagine
but if you think that the highest form of consciousness is to be like that well that's a matter of taste it's a free country you can be in that state of consciousness if you want to and their arguments whereby if you can manipulate yourself by otto hypnosis and
and thing is deeper than auto hypnosis into these various states you can start reading other people's minds
and doing some very startling things that will be called miracles
but as i explained my comment to that is so what
we manipulated enough already
with not always and results
and i hate to think what would happen if we were all manipulating each other's minds
miracles aren't really a very profitable line of investigation it's so soon exhausts itself
i'm much more interested for me and i'm dulu i'm talking to i personally now not laying down the last how you should behave or think or what state of consciousness you should be in
there's no shouldn't this
but i would rather remain in the human state
i don't want to be an angel
and i found that human beings who have ambitions to be angels usually become devils
and i
the human state
really you could say the taoist ideal
it's an extraordinarily humane philosophy
and in certain ways later our sure why but for the mummy
it is very important to get the point to understand the full meaning of this expression naming is the mother of ten thousand things
the cars here naming simply means representing
working out correspondences
between thoughts and the world
this thing's the world
i'm singing is a divisive process
one sees how disastrous singing can sometimes become when we get over a specialization in medicine
and somebody specializes in hearts and somebody in ears and somebody in eyes as if those organs could be separated from the others
and so they will perform surgery at one point or of the body which may heal that part of the body would have disastrous consequences somewhere else so the operation was successful in the patient died
and that piecemeal way of looking at the human organism
is a result of excessive thing
in whitehead's language
we call it cation
from the latin raise a thing
note the parallel rays thing and ray or i think
and also he called a certain kind of thing the fallacy of misplaced concreteness
the ego for example being a fallacy of misplaced concreteness
all the equator if we talked about it as a think would be the fallacy of misplaced concreteness
so therefore the real world
is the not named the world has not named
and that as i said is the world of the baby
before the baby has been taught
the table of distinctions
which the culture into which the baby is born observes the for the baby has been taught the social conventions the babies sees the unthought unnamed world
unfortunately it cannot tell us anything about it
because we have brainwashed ourselves to the point where we can't understand anything we haven't been told
we will put the baby through this brainwashing as a result of which it will no longer be in the state of consciousness that it could tell us about
although it has been suggested with some
degree i think of wisdom
that if you would treat a baby like a person
and instead of treating it in a baby away
treated as a small adult
we talked to the baby in natural language as you would address another adult
the by the time the baby is three years old he will have an astonishing mastery of language will be able to tell you lots of things you don't know
because it will be still close enough to its oceanic consciousness strides word
to still be in touch with the undivided view of the world
no difference between the voluntary and the involuntary
the doing and the happening the subjective in the objective that's all learned
now where of the opinion that it's a very hard matter
to get back to that state and we're scared of it
because the psycho analyst will call it regression
and will say oh you are not facing up to the reality principle you are not facing the real world you are wanting to withdraw into the amniotic fluid of the womb
this is bullshit
it isn't necessarily that way at all
erick erickson and seen the pine also he now talks about
regression in the service of maturity
it isn't a question of going back to watch you were like when you were a baby you can't do that
you can't be grow
what you're doing is your
rather like this you were given a sheet of paper to make a drawing on
as you made the drawing the piece of paper disappeared
you have the drawing without any basis it gives you a lot of separate things
what you gotta do by regaining the oceanic consciousness you're going to regain the paper
now you can see the drawing property
it's like that venus is not the best medicine but
if we could have a baby is oceanic consciousness plus a knowledge of all the tricks and games that adults play we would have a most amusing combination
and that would be a
what we're talking about
as a people in taoism or and zen see the world all any good
a mistake we'll see the well that way
having set aside the people who say that's regression am terrible
let's look at the people who say it's impossibly difficult

the problem of stopping thinking
and therefore getting back to the world as it is before it's been thing think
is to realize
it is not a matter of getting rid of thoughts
because there's nothing wrong with thoughts
thoughts grow in the mind as naturally as grass grows in the field
or if you don't like the word mind i'll say they grow in the nervous system
terminology doesn't matter it's all pattern
what we do is we assume all too readily that the thoughts in the mind reflects state
of the world
but they don't anymore than the leaves on trees reflect the grass and the field
but we could work out an arrangement whereby we set up a code so that the leaves off the tree would represent the grass on the field while the cows in the field or whatever you want
why we could number the leaves
a number the cows
and say you know here's a representation
so there are wiggles in our minds
fluctuations vibrations
and we arranged for these to represent the world
and so we've got thinking
i mean it was rather smart of us to see that that that could be done
but you can be too clever sometimes and get yourself into a mess because you were too smart
that's a very familiar phenomenon
so don't get involved in a you don't need to get involved as i say i get you can if you'd like to
but from my point of view you don't need to get involved
any attempt to suppress your thoughts
all you have to do is to understand their nature
to understand that they are
a babbling stream going on in the skull
and you need not take them any more seriously than that

that is why for example
sufi dervishes
will repeat the name of god
i'll repeat their own names
until they become meaningless
and by this process they
seen a critical thought the thought of god or the thought of one's self
back in its place as noise
and so this puts all thought back in its place
as babble
and then there is no longer and is split
the natural world and the mind world
the world
that can be
touch them and the world that is conceived
because they belong to the same
the same
order of vibrations
and it's in this way you see that really without doing anything
it's possible to switch from one level of consciousness to the other

and that's you see that
move over
without doing anything
is the trick
the you it is what's reflected in the poem which says
entering the forest he does not disturb a blade of grass entering the water he doesn't make a river
it's also what is meant by
the dow is an image of the moon in the water
here are
thousands of puddles and ponds and lakes and rivers
when the one moon rises instantly
there are thousands of reflections
the water does not wait or intent to receive the image of the moon
the moon has no mind to cast the reflection
and as it were were there is water and where there is moon there is instantly moon in water
no interval no hesitation no block that is why satori is called sutton
it doesn't mean quick it doesn't mean something that happens in a hurry it means the instantaneous

the hands of struck in the clappers instantaneous because really the sound and the coming of hands together the same event
and it's awkward to say that the sound is the result of the clapping it is the clapping
the taoist
just as he
uses minimal effort
not in order to be efficient
but just because perhaps he is lazy
that he has gravity in him
so in this process of spiritual awakening i don't like those terms but nobody's invented better ones yet
it does it without fuss
expression without fuss translates the chinese will sure
and it's interesting because the character sure is the same g which also means thing event but it means to business fuss and affair
so you'll get the expression
would sure ram which means a man have no business
in a way a drop out
so a man have no business
is a man who was switched from being an ordinary man to a sage
without announcing the change
without anyone knowing about it
without having
gone through some kind of usher maazel
how to turn out the other way
so fast it couldn't be noticed

and so i'm trying to find out
the level at which this
can so easily happen
let me illustrate what i'm pointing out by going at it from another direction
we'll say that pain as a problem
and we wish to overcome the problem with pain
now too obvious methods suggest themselves one is to take dope
and stop the pain that way
another is to muster up courage
les will against the pain to become very tense and grim and stern and fight ones reactions to pay
of those two ways there really isn't much to choose between them
probably the dope is better
but the taoist approach to pain would be this
the problem of pain is that you don't like it
the problem of society is
it says to all our children
of course you don't like pain
but you must pretend that it doesn't bother you
and here's where the trouble starts
it isn't so much the pain will make me scream
but it's the screaming that i'm not supposed to do
that really bugs me
if i felt i could scream when i heard
the whole problem wouldn't be so difficult because i would know that nature provides a responsiveness to pain
that somehow
allows it to or
blow itself off between itself up
but if i'm forbidden this response
then i don't know where to go when i heard and so often people who are in pain have the sensation of having nowhere to go you can't get away from a migraine migraine headache
so they take you to hospital
and there are lots of other people in pain in the hospital and if they were all screaming
they would madden each other and even more and the nursing staff
and hospitals you must remember our run for the convenience of the staff will get
so that wouldn't do it all
so everybody has to be doped up
good now i used to hate going to the dentist
then the only reason i did they going now is that it's such a i'm so busy with other things
but i overcame of the fear of going to the dentist by overcoming the fear of reacting to pain
you cannot stop pain happening
oh you could perhaps by otto hypnosis but let's supposing we're not using any tricks
but pain is a stage in a chain of reactions so you have a reaction to it that is that since i was certain kind of vibration set up in you you allow that to happen allow the next thing to happen allow the chain of events to follow
well then you see your pain is cushion
by a lot of subsidiary bounces which you've allowed society doesn't want you to cushion it
he wants you to hold it in
so do you see in this way
the problem of pain as addressed
some colossal bombastic and pompous programme of self change

and that's the city of the essence of dollars and
when i hear people are in for a programme of self change
and that they're going to this esoteric school
they going to undergo
a terrifically complex manipulation
when i often think
wow we how much faster you have to make in order to postpone this thing
it's like a those other games people blame in love
i'm going to make myself as difficult to get as possible
so anybody who wants my love will rarely have to make a fuss
on they thought that they will appreciate it all the mall when they get it
which may or may not be true you may find that you put a tremendous investment than something that wasn't worth it
i think then well
when somebody tells me that the path of spiritual development is very very very difficult
and that it requires a person of unusual guts and terrific indomitable will
i think what a trap for egotist this thing is
is just beautifully bait it
the challenge why we
and so
when you approach it in that way by you have to show results
will you come out of that school if you are still human you'll be suspect
get the convention
and this appeals very much in the united states
because we have by no means shaken off
our puritan ways a thought
we believe fanatically
that your mind should rule your matter
and we hypocritical about it because we're the biggest pill take us on earth
but the general thing is you ought to be able
to command the physical was a mental
if you can't your week
and this makes us very cruel
that's why we make taking heroin a crime
why we don't really seriously treat alcoholics as tick
say you ought not to be sick you see you ought to be able to resist that bad habit
hey so it immense profit to our racketeers we forbid human nature
and we ask our policemen to act as armed clergyman wow
to enforce sumptuary laws of a purely religious nature
to enforce laws against crimes without victims
whereas it's axiomatic that in a free country you must be able to go to hell in your own way
otherwise there's no risk otherwise it doesn't free it's a mockery
so i must say i'm very very suspicious of all these caravans
but that's the nice thing about the taoist philosophy
that it does not impose on you the requirement to be a period
only that you'll be a human being
and so for this reason you will find that many of the so-called mystical ways certain forms of yoga
our buddhist meditation of christian practice hindu practice will say that are a spiritual person doesn't have sexual relations
when this yoga and buddhism came to china
and they told the chinese that to practice you have to be celibate the chinese were absolutely horrified
because the whole of the chinese social order so far as it's confusion is based on the family
i mean not to have children seem to them absolutely ridiculous
then they found out and see that the hindus
we're uptight about sex
because they equated loss of semen with loss of blood
now from a biological point of view there is no analogy between the two situations
and they couldn't
make a clear distinction
between feeling rested and at ease after sexual intercourse and feeling exhausted after loss of blood

and so they felt that the sexual energy
must be conserved
and diverted
so that
the kundalini or the southern power which resides at the base of the spine instead of sending all it's energy out in sex would withdraw that energy send it up the social not into the thousand petrol lotus in the brain where the sexual would be spiritualized

now the chinese had some
similar ideas that they took over from the hindus the taoist meditators only they found a way of cheating
ah gonna hit
this is of interest a men
they found that instead of suppressing the sexual orgasm
there was a way of putting pressure
on the tubes between the scrotum in the penis
so that the semen would go into the bladder instead of being ejected

so kind of a groovy of half of the birth control
but they discovered this
and although they made a lot of who are about this was the way of causing the semen to ascend
back into the brain tissue
because it didn't do that and i feel
but if this is such an amusing sidelight on the chinese way of handling imbues

so the taoists therefore tend on the whole and to be what we would call rather agreeable people

two were
i have attitudes that
are well represented in the poem i want to review

miss by
and he he wrote it about his studio which he calls a whole of idleness
i'm too lazy to read the taoists classics for dow doesn't reside in the books too lazy to look over the sutras
before they go no deeper in dow than it's looks
the essence of dow consists in avoid clear and cool
but what is this void except being a whole day like a fool
too lazy i am to read poetry for when i stopped the poetry will be gone too lazy to play on the chin for music dies on the string when it's born too lazy to drink wines are beyond the drunkards dream there are rivers and lakes too lazy to play
chest for besides the pawn or other stakes
too lazy to look at the hills and streams father is a painting within my heart portals too lazy to face the wind and the moon for within me as the isle of the immortals
too lazy to attend to worldly affairs for inside me on my heart and my possessions too lazy to watch the changing of the seasons for within me our heavenly processions pine trees may decay and rocks may rot but i shall always remain what i am
is it not fitting that i call this the hall of idleness

i made a remark this morning about
the way we teach children to distinguish between what is important and what is unimportant
and therefore inculcate a mental habit of skimming over life
and rejecting an enormous number of experiences as being unprofitable
and this
gravely restricts our taste
well here's a taoist philosopher
who made a list of thirty two happy mum
and thirty three excuse me
and i listened to some of the things
that he finds
i have nothing to do after a meal and try to go through the things and some old trunks
i see that are dozens or hundreds of i o u's from people who are my family money
some of them are dead and some still living
but in any case there's no hope of their returning the money
behind people's backs i put them together in a pile and make a bonfire of them and i look up to the sky and see the last trace of smoke disappear
ah is not this happens
i get up early on a summer morning and see people sewing a large bamboo pole under a mat set to be used as a waterpipe
ah is this not happens
it has been raining for a whole months and i lie in bed in the morning like one drunk or ill refusing to get up
suddenly i hear a chorus of birds announcing a clear day quickly i pull aside the curtain push open the window and see the beautiful sunshine in glistening in the forest looks like having a bath ah is this not happens
i am drinking on a winter's night and suddenly note that the night has turned extremely cold i push open the window and see that snowflakes come down the size of a palm and there are already three or four inches of snow on the ground
ah is does not happens
to cut with a sharp knife a bright green watermelon on a big scarlet plate on a summer afternoon
to open the window and let it was part of the room

to keep three or four spots of eczema in a private part of my body and now and then to scold or bathe it with hot water behind closed doors

i wake up in the morning and seem to hear someone in the house sign saying that last night someone died
i immediately asked to find out who it is and learn that it is the sharpest most calculating fellow in town

to keep
no here what was one where is it

to take a stick of reading
and rub it in a drop of dew on the window so


spinoza said
the mall we know's particular thing is the more we know of god
but you see now the some sort of paradox coming up
i started out by saying
that there aren't really any things
and then suddenly we find ourselves arriving
add his state of consciousness well what we have hitherto called things and very particular things indeed become of enormous importance
and this gets us back to the place where in answer to the very general question what is the fundamental principle of buddhism zen master replies the cypress tree in the yard
and the haiku poem
is always very very concrete
very specific image

you know it create say a scene that do could was cut with a knife
the dense mist what is being shouted between hill of boat

that's all
so somehow at the point where everything becomes most particular
and we get these apparently trivial
everyday occurrences
of human life
we suddenly have done a flip in which we see that the high high absolute the doll is not something way off their from all that it is just precisely this little everyday event
now we can talk about that sort of flip in western language
like this

let's suppose
that you are really god

we could say first
that you are god dreaming
that you are who you are
and there might come a point where you would wake up
and instead of having your present kind of consciousness
you would survey and understand the whole universe
and you'd be up there watching all galaxies or something like that
are even more complicated
but let's get more subtle about this idea
being aware that you are god
would not involve that change of consciousness
but would be instead of coming to the understanding that the consciousness you are in at this moment his omniscience

there is a way of seeing that and it often happens when people who've taken lsd
and have as it were blown their minds gone into all sorts of amazing spaces return to normal consciousness
just at the moment of re-entry
that the normal consciousness is just as divine as any other one
and i can't describe a weird feeling than that
then the identity
of the consciousness of the absolute with the kind of consciousness urine now
now that's talking about it in a very highfalutin metaphysical way by introducing this loaded word god
because then whenever we say god
we get an inflated idea

we see the and throned monarch at the top of the steps and hear the trumpets and see the peacock fans and the battalions
the lighting
the spotlights the central figure the glory
but loud sir says
the great doll flows everywhere both to the left onto the right loves and nourishes all things but does not nodded over them and when good things are accomplished it lays no claim to them
it's rather different i am the lord and there is none else may only down so for there are no other gods beside me

very different from the pomp and circumstance of cathedral rituals were the architecture is designed after the design of the courts of the roman emperors
our problem and talking about this is our word god is so loaded
and that we do towards it
what i will call would our relationship to god to jesus christ to the gurus to the buddha's is blocked by the phenomenon of excessive reverence
i also call it pedestal alization
put that fellow high enough in your estimation and you can't reach him
this is a way of kicking him upstairs thirty one body
so with this attitude of god god blue for more to a little mel i will blow up there month
we've lost the sense of god as immediate magic
see the absolute
inside of everything say the
inside is only used metaphorically
of the
the most obvious
what there is
yeah so screamingly obvious that only a well educated person can miss it
to conceal things by making them obvious
it's often done
you just don't miss him you missed completely the thing was staring him in the face
and this is so of all really important discoveries the person who makes them feel foolish for not having seen it before they buzz opens
that's why there's such a joy in any scientific or mathematical discovery because suddenly it zooms that you that you are looking at all the time
and that you didn't see it because you were looking for something more recondite

when you've got this pedestal alization this great phenomena of excessive reverence
that prevents you from seeing the obvious
you think surely it couldn't be that
surely it couldn't mean
that the dow is you know what there isn't there's just a simple as that just you know stop taking a thought seriously and we view the world including thoughts from a non think point of view from a no word point of view there it is baby
that's the dow
and you know you almost say well
but shouldn't i ask a question
i mean surely it can't be that simple know what if everybody saw it all that
wow that be terrible
well they say this is a typical philosophical gambit that one learns by reading too much
which is that if you give a philosopher a real answer he can't ask you any further questions so his game ends
but if he could say to you to your answer i'm not sure what you mean by that and then you are foolish enough to give them an explanation and he can still play the game because you can take your explanation the pieces because it's only words but if you end up with some it isn't a word will say
well of course that's nothing to do with philosophy and wander off and find somebody else to verbalize with
oh so you know suddenly you and in the universe is are so up
so so some the point is that there it is is that simple
is this marvel
which is completely got to teased out of thought as keats said as duff eternity
what you say that leaves me with nothing to think about
and i and you've been brought up by ibm with the notice that says think
really you don't have somebody to think about go on think something terrible is going to happen
you can't be that easy
but there it is it's too bad if it is that easy but it but it is
the thing that puts people off is false modesty
can i go surely i mean i'm just a slob i remember lotta my dear friend who
live with as a neighbor for ten years he was a greek moon a very joyous exuberant man full of mischief
and he had a stroke about a year before he died during the stroke he had a colossal mystical experience
absolutely incredible
and he said to me afterwards
he said i cannot imagine how such an experience happened to me you know how i know what the i'm a lecherous ma'am
here is that our narrative now you couldn't happen to me because we all look in with inside ourselves you know and we all
find that
there's a kind of quaking mess of anxious sensitivity
tamina recruits the
let's forget that let's put on a brave front and identify with their if we can forget that quaking mess but you know we're all like that i need
and if you weren't you wouldn't be human the object of these mystical ways is not to turn you into non-humans and then they differentiate between a living buddha and the stone buddha a stone buddha has no feelings and other words no quaking mess
and that you're right if you have that are like a pre frontal lobotomy
i'm sure we could legitimize everybody castrate them and do if you are the little surgical tricks so that they wouldn't give any more trouble
i wouldn't have any ideas they would subside and to top it a day and to believe from one point of view in total samadhi
but i'm suggesting how to ah
understand samadhi understand the mystical experience
beyond words
and the same time they are human
and for me that is the way that are i find that
i want in life to synthesize
the spiritual and the sense to us
the life of
contemplation the life of action
the way beyond the world and the way of the world
so that we don't live anymore and as gets a universe
let's take an intermission