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Rethinking Water, Rethinking Life

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Talk by Class at Tassajara on 2019-11-27

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The talk explores perceptions of water through the metaphor in David Foster Wallace's commencement speech, challenging participants to question their unexamined beliefs. Attendees are encouraged to reconsider their views on water by engaging in partnered exercises and reflective discussions about personal and shared experiences. The conversation prompts a deeper examination of water as a fundamental element of life that relates to and impacts personal and environmental dynamics.

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  • "This is Water" by David Foster Wallace: Introduced as a parable in the talk, this work encourages deeper reflection on everyday consciousness and perception, serving as a metaphor for understanding implicit assumptions about reality.

The emphasis rests on questioning habitual perceptions and exploring how these assumptions shape one's understanding of both physical and metaphorical aspects of existence.

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And so during the video, moving into the water section goes from paragraphs in terms of Okamura's kind of framing, paragraphs 17 through 34. . And the lucky that through the rest of the water section, before the sheen, yeah, we can focus on the last part, you guys, ones, the sages and the oxen. So we have those. First hopper, I left a parable. And some of you may be familiar with this. This is from David Foster. And he was part of the beginning of a commencement speech that he gave a few years ago.

[01:01]

So this is it. There are these two young fish swimming along, and they happen to meet an older fish swimming the other way, who nods at them and says, morning boys, how's the water? And the two young fish swim along for a bit, and then eventually one of them looks over at the other one and goes, look how's the water. So, what the hell is water? And we have these ideas and views about water. And the building is inviting us to consider these. Understand what are our views of water? How do they couple our world? And are there other ways of seeing water or seeing reality that we're not aware of? That we're not picking it? What assumption is part of living about your life that you just swim in on a day-to-day basis? And don't even question what it is you see, how it is you see it, why it is you see it, and how it is that you're acting out your particular perspective.

[02:08]

What is it that you're swimming in? Do you know? Do you agree with your neighbor that you're swimming in the same thing when you look at the views about what it is that you're swimming in? So basically, it goes the same. Look at what it is that you're screaming. So I'd like us to do an exercise to look at what is water. What is your understanding of water? So we'll go to the water section. And I'd like to invite you to guide us to partner with one person, groups of two. And I have a number of questions for you to explore together. And why don't you get into the groups first, and then we'll talk to you. We have a singleton here.

[03:16]

Yeah, there it is. So why don't you go over there next to the glass? Like water water or dharma water? So, one of you will go outside, and I'd like you to walk through the questions.

[04:35]

You'll have a number of minutes to do this. So one person speaking at the other time, the other person is simply listening. So the question is, what is water? So your first spin is a free association. Whatever comes to mind when you think about water. Swimming, washing lettuce, a million things. Whatever comes to mind. What's that? Human body. Human body. So anything, just free associate. What other thoughts relate to water in your mind? And then the second one is, how do you perceive water? Basically, what are the attributes of water? So if you were, you met an alien from outer space who came down to earth and has never seen water before, how would you describe water to this alien, what its attributes? And then thirdly, what is your own relationship to water, your personal relationship to water? How has water had an impact on you? You had some significant experience in your life, that makes you either love water or be afraid of water or so on.

[05:38]

And how have you had an impact on water? So this is a mutual relationship. Water impacts you, but you also impact water. What is your relationship to water in those two aspects? Okay, so I'll give each of you four or five minutes. I'll ring the bell, you hit stop, and then I'll have you switch. Any questions about that? I'll just let you time yourself about how you look through them. You should have time to do that. Okay? Identify who's gonna go first. I'm happy either way. So, personally, you go like one, and it's at you, then you go. You need to win. Well, I'll go first then. I sound like that's yours.

[06:40]

Yeah, squeeze. Okay. Water is very in the front. It's the hottest, hottest thing. It's the coldest, the coldest thing. Water is fluid. Water is hard. Water surprises me every time I drink it because, yeah, water is very healthy. But I never want to. But water is always the right answer. Water is what I've been listening to. Water is... Is what? So, um, um... No, it's that. So, um, I've experienced water, stretch, treat, what?

[07:42]

I just wait, [...] wait. Water. [...] to feel something beyond the spirit of that bed.

[08:46]

I don't know if it doesn't make me some iron. [...] I don't It wasn't true. You've kind of been one in three, so now you have to do this too. You still have to take the baby. I mean, you've ate people, right?

[09:51]

Yeah. Um... It's invisible by itself, and we can't test it out because it doesn't have any status. That was a music that makes three copies. I didn't see it. [...] It gets mostly wet, but there's nothing to see in it.

[11:00]

Yeah. I'm talking about it. I'm talking about it. Actually, it works better. You know, you want to prove like one of those images you can see. Like this. [...] We got a soda. Get cold soda.

[12:01]

It's water that forms those fluffy things that are up in the air. It's like water by itself is invisible. It's like they're looking at water. Water. I guess I immediately go to my Kenneth's perspective of just that water is this incredibly strange substance. And there's certainly a lot of us.

[13:02]

And it has all kinds of bizarre behaviors that kind of make life It's possible. Like, it's hard to imagine life as evolving in any other, like, stuff. And I think about the fish swimming in the water and how, like, you know, doesn't know that's in water. And then I think that we're actually swimming in water, and we're talking about how the fish that you see that swims in water, but we're swimming in water. Like, it's all around us. You can't get away from it. It's, um... it happens to be invisible because if we could see it it would get so it would be like we wouldn't be able to see anything we would like we were just yeah and i was thinking about this like god experiment like where like if you if you could only see water if you did not see anything except for water everything would be like it would just be like fractals everywhere Because it's like, do you like some space?

[14:03]

Like, I think of the jeweled necklace who's like, you know, all these streams and rivers connected by these little things. And then I think like, well, that's sort of just like in my body or in the leaf. It's like all these pools of water connected by these like little strings. And it's just, and it goes down to like, they're really, really tiny. And then it goes up to really, really big. And it's like, it's just so bizarre. The next one is how I would describe it to an alien. It's so hard for me not to go back to my, like, science-y, like, oops, what water is. But I think that's how I would describe it. I think the impact one is really interesting. I always really loved water.

[15:04]

My parents, my mom wanted to make sure that I could swim. So I learned to swim when I was like nine months old. Where they like, slow in your face, dunk you underwater, and you just swim. And so I've always kind of grew it up around water and heighten water. And I have a strong community for it. And... In my work life, it's like the same of my existence. Because in chemistry, when you're making, synthesizing a molecule, water is almost always the problem. And so we go to all these extraordinary measures to get rid of water. And then I think, well, like, this is that interesting that all this activity that's, like, that's going into potentially things that are useful is, like, it's pretty unnatural. And it's, like, damaging to the environment, like, all things considered.

[16:06]

And I think about, like, how we're, like, we... are at this point where we have to change everything around and start mimicking nature. We have to not rely on petroleum because it requires this no water type of chemistry and that's how we get all these drugs that are so life is important. Yeah, so I think that's a very interesting thing. And then I also think it's like this sort of interesting metaphor on, like, Pluto nature, of course. Like, I think of all this Pluto nature and, like, science. Like, are they, like, are they just like that? Like, we don't want any water in our reactions, so we're going to keep it over here and keep our little toxic, like, chemistry thing going on Or we want to kind of bring them together.

[17:12]

Or maybe they are really already, they've always been together, and it's a matter of seeing there. It's everything that we encounter is with, is that whether it's in relation to... And I had this memory earlier of when I was in high school, we did a music video on water from that chemistry class, where we had this choreograph, like, don't go chasing waterfalls, but all the words were changed to have to do with the characteristics of water. And I think it's also interesting that it's, like, water, like, even pure water, like, doesn't actually, like, just stay water. It's always actually, like, breaking apart. And so there's always, like, this, like, tiny bit that's, like, not water.

[18:15]

I mean, I think that it goes back to, like, that's how, like, life can kind of use it, come out of it, is because it's like not a static thing. It's like there's the secret dynamics of movement. So you have to strive to subdue me, as you said. Like when you open your closet and it's coming from the source deep in your heart, it's going to be a little bit more tasty. It's coming from myself.

[18:47]

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