an aesthetic as much as a teaching to be understood. And I was pointing that towards the mind of appreciation for existence. Not so much in contrast to understanding, but more that the appreciation is primary and understanding can offer its enhancement, its attribute to appreciation. And then the other attribute I was mentioning was inquiry, offering that example of all sitting and listening to the voice of the Dharma arising in its myriad forms in the room. And what is it to let each arising be the flower that Shakyamuni holds up.

[01:05]

What is that kind of inquiry in contrast to figuring something out, in contrast to this is the right understanding, so therefore other understandings are the wrong understanding. This is it and that's not it. that diversity is an expression of an abundance, not the grinds of exclusivity, not the grinds of creating higher and lower. then what is the state of being that has this kind of appreciation, this sense of abundance rather than scarcity, this sense of ease and inclusion rather than dis-ease and exclusion?

[02:11]

What is the state of being that engages existence as the unfurling of the banner of the Dharma, that each experience is a teaching rather than a reenactment of some small self, some self-centered intrigue. What is this state of being? What is the mind-heart of the great sage of India? You know, the translation is immortal for the word sage. The more literal translation is the immortal. That, you know, in Taoism, the great sages were called the immortals.

[03:16]

And in some way, sometimes the way of the Tao was to become immortal, you know. more literally understood, to create a sense of health and well-being that you would live forever. But there's another way to think about immortal. I was thinking of Bishop Ogui and his close relationship with Suzuki Roshi, so that when I called him up and he heard that I was Suzuki Roshi's Dharma grandson. So this was the grandson of a dear friend. So I think, I mean, I don't know, but I think it disposed him to hear my strange ideas and to entertain them and to agree to come.

[04:23]

so that in some ways we could say, well, Suzuki Roshi is dead, but then in another way, he lives on. And so often, and in so many ways, he's referenced his teachings, his spirit, his way of being in the world, that to be such a being that it resonates throughout time and space, this sense of immortality, not so much that just the physical body lasts or doesn't. And maybe this is a more Buddhist way, but still, I think it says something just about you know, the nature of our human life and how it can flower.

[05:29]

So what I'd like to talk about mostly this morning is indeed the mind of the great sage of India and how that mind, that heart, the word is shin, which means heart mind. So how the heart mind

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