As you reflected by another experience, did more details come forward? Were there certain things that were easy to notice and other things that weren't so easy to notice? Why was it when you were listening? Did you find yourself getting drawn in and closer to the other person's experience or did you find yourself pulled away by your own thinking? What did you notice? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, we're so creatures and it's so hard to probably behave because we didn't want them. We smile and, yeah. But there's something about it.

[01:03]

I think a person can take complete responsibility for their own experience. And by that, it doesn't have to be valid. This was my experience, whether it makes sense to you or not, whether it even makes sense to me. That's just what it was. and there's a way it can register more food to let it be that kind of on my side to plan it's socially it's very unusual yeah I felt it was both I felt it was both virtually impossible for me but what was it that I could felt kind of like a relief that I could actually just relax don't worry about it Yeah, right. That we feel the tension to do something and then when we can release the tension of that request, then it's a little bit more steady.

[02:20]

Yeah. I can't take your very part. How about when you were describing it? Did it enhance? Did it bring back the detail, the particularity of what you went through, what you experienced? Or what happened? Or did you find we get too caught up in your own words and less tracking? I thought I wasn't really thinking that much, but then, I never counted my experience. It wasn't supposed to be about my thoughts. I thought when the person I was talking to, they were just looking at me with a sort of engaged part of facial expression.

[03:31]

But there was a step in that contact that made me feel much more responsible for what I was saying. It was just that I felt that I had to be accurate because I felt that person was truly visible. You know, and so I started really holding in on what it was that I was saying and trying to describe my bodice sensation, or the lack of bodice sensation, you were able to figure out that it was possible. In a way, The attentive listeners are modeling something that you want to operate for yourself, too. You know, just that open attention, make a deal with each year what exactly happened. Well, in fact, it didn't happen for me. I think I felt more listening to you otherwise. Because it wasn't a reaction. Yes. We had rather than really, I don't know, somehow I had a little more listening to it rather than, we hope there wasn't a denying gesture of this social dynamic.

[04:47]

It's just, I noticed that going in between, because there was a change after I had said several thoughts. In general, I don't think we endow with what other people are who say or have really chosen a lot of importance and values. And I hope that it feels more safe to be in the school class without Having an expectation of having a result in some points and having to keep going and having to get connected and develop and just be able to have words get results and do the people that have it.

[05:58]

Yeah. But I found that level And to remember specifically in our Mediterranean, but at all the times, so the women were trying to pay as close attention as possible, but then were also all going to do whatever experience around. Maybe they were following their breath,

[06:59]

Hope your attention is taken up by the sign of the sirens. I don't want you to close it out and leave that just to come, parse that for the word out. You just want to be closed by thing. I also think with your sensing, there are levels of experience that are remarkable. Our body was experiencing things way before we had any words for anything. So that can be part of why it's hard to describe. That level of experiencing and sensing comes in here. It's harder. It's a non-verbal level. So this practice of reflection. What just happened? And so we'd really like to have people experiment and explore this, you know, especially when something notable happens.

[08:02]

You know, when we bring attention to it. What just happened? Not so much, did I like it? Did I dislike it? Not what opinions do I have? Well, of course, all those things tend to come up. But watch as closely and exactly as you can. What happened? What was experienced? What thoughts? What feelings? What physical sensations? And so this was a way to just take something very simple and explore that to it. And so in a way, that is something we can do very simple things, you know, just a simple physical exercise and explore it. But then also can you build that skill to bring that same reflective attention to something more complex. And often as we watch our eyes, When we have something that we experience that's difficult, we'll tend to re-play. If I could ask a woman, you're not done with that.

[09:04]

Listen to it again. Can you really listen? And then we're going to the break now. Then when we come back to the break, we'll bring it down. We'll meet you over here. We've had a picture in that posture.

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