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Presence Beyond Words in Zen

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Talk by Shosan At Tassajara Suzuki Roshi Yt on 1967-12-07

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The talk explores themes of mindfulness, presence, and overcoming fear in Zen practice, emphasizing the importance of living fully in the present without being encumbered by past or future concerns. The discussion underscores that true understanding and teaching arise from direct experience and silent observation rather than verbal instruction.

  • Buddha's Enlightenment and Teaching at Varanasi: The enlightenment under the Bodhi tree in Magadha is highlighted as a pivotal moment initiating the Buddha's teaching journey.
  • Yakusan Zenji's Teaching Method: A reference is made to Yakusan Zenji, who silently conveyed teachings by his presence alone, illustrating that Zen wisdom is often transmitted through being rather than speaking.

These references serve to illustrate key points about how Zen practice is centered around direct, experiential understanding and the idea that the true essence of teachings can manifest in everyday actions.

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Thank you. So Buddha started teaching at Paranasi.

[06:28]

But actually, when he attained enlightenment under the Buddha, he started his teaching for the people. Now, after sitting for seven days, I want to see and I want to hear your true teaching. Now come and show me your teaching.

[07:38]

My heart is full of joy. This window in Pasahara is like my own home. Sitting in Zazen, meeting with my fellow moms, trying to follow the way of my Moshi. word by word, moment by moment, feeling by feeling, my delusion, my feeling, is expressed in this moment.

[09:02]

In this moment, it's right. Don't live in the future or past. Thank you very much. As the sun enlightens our daily life, as the stars never cease to shine, how is it possible to forget? To forget.

[10:10]

To forget. Originally, you do not forget it. Dr. Rush, outside I see the trees and things that grow in the rocks, seeming to do perfect Zazan. I see my own potentiality for this. Yet still, I feel great fear. Please tell me, what is the true nature of fear? Fear has no reason why it arrives.

[11:24]

running water become a part of you. When you become truly their friend, there will be no fear. Joroshi, the fish is in the water. The water is in the fish. It is soundless. You cannot hear it. It is clear and you cannot see it. It has no smell. How can there possibly be a mistake? There is no mistake whatsoever. Thank you, very good.

[12:34]

Dr. Roshno, I have a question. Where is home? What is your strength? When you start wandering apart, there is no hope. There is no strength. If you find your home, in this moment, at this place, you have enough strength to practice our way. And home is right here. promotion.

[13:40]

In our practice, should we try to overcome our leaving service? Should we try to work through it? you should try to overcome when there is no big mind or no small mind. Dr. Archon, I have a place that puts Yes.

[14:43]

Thank you. After four months training on Seven days, Sachin. What am I doing here? You are doing nothing. Thank you very much. Go to worship. I'm afraid to ask the question. Why? Because you see me as your teacher always.

[16:05]

Open your eyes and listen to me more. Dr. Roshi, how is it possible to notice the fear of no nose, no mouth, no eyes, no world of eyes? Fear comes from your ego. So, the way is to open up your mind so that there's no more ego.

[17:12]

Thank you very much. Dr. Roshi, is there only one after devotion? Excuse me. I could be following you. Is there only one after devotion? After devotion. Devotion itself. Only one. And devotional life will be continued, one after another, incessant. Dr. Roshi, when we are silent, what is the question?

[18:26]

There is no question when you are silent. But when you are in activity, you will have numerous questions. questions should be answered on each moment, in each moment. Thank you very much. So watch it. How can I stop to ask a question? Originally, there is no need to ask questions.

[19:37]

Your active mind brings about many questions. So the point is to practice a fewer way. Then, at least at that time, you have no question. Mr. Mashi, why did you and why could all the Buddhists and the Buddhists try to teach in some ways? Try to teach what? Why could they teach and try to save others? Save others.

[20:42]

Because all of them are part of them. Well, there's no need to be afraid of being a part of me. Don't be afraid of me. I try to study hard.

[21:45]

But what happens if something happens to you and you can't be our teacher anymore? That cannot be happened. I'm always with you. Forever. Thank you very much. Thank you, Roshi. How or why has this come about that we can feel that we have lost our hope and make the journey what we think is the journey to return to it? Why is this?

[22:46]

Because you are feeling it's opposite. You think you started your journey from home, but their home is here. Don't want to go to various countries. I understand. But I wonder why it is that we do that. Because you started your fear. You started your journey from your home, which is not true home.

[23:48]

It was not to go. You must feel as if you came back to your home right now. Dr. Roshi, what is the fundamental cause of illness? Cause of illness? Illness. Illness. We do not discuss about it because they have no end.

[24:51]

That's right. Very much. Don't forget you said yes. Do not forget that you said yes, which no. Don't you, Roshi? What is it that the great sages have said, speaks when you are silent, it is silent when you speak? Great studies always will say something.

[26:19]

Giving teaching, not only through his mouth, but also by his bricks of ice. walking, sitting, lying down, always here, showing the truth. Roshi when a person has saved himself or herself has that person also saved the world? yes all universe will be saved if it is not so he did not save himself or save others

[27:38]

Thank you. We can succeed in directing our effort inside. How can there be anything outside our effort? There is no inside or outside. We say our effort should be directed toward this. But what we say is to suggest you the direction. One arrow. We'll get through past, present, and future, the three worlds, and the arrow will continuously.

[29:10]

Don't think the arrow is always going outward. To outward, to go outward, 1,000 miles mean to So don't think that it's outside or inside in our practice. Thank you so much. Yes, you should.

[30:32]

But if you want to think in this true sense, you should reserve the area where you do not think that it's still a problem. Your thinking should not be based on a dear foundation. Don't you ask me? Is it necessary words, questions, or anything? Why you open it up in next time?

[31:40]

Continue your practice. Go and rest.

[33:01]

Go and rest. I have made questions, but they seem to come and go, and they don't seem very important.

[34:09]

Everyone seems to work very hard in their shin. The question should not be about Further, it is right or wrong. Right now, the most important thing is to find

[35:28]

is the most important thing. Still, your question is directed to wrong direction. You are asking yourself for others, which is not important. The most important thing is to find, to be involved in what you are doing now, without thinking good or bad.

[36:32]

Stop thinking and devote yourself to your kids' work. Whatever people say or whatever you yourself say, you should not be concerned about it. You have told me that first I must serve in confidence.

[38:15]

Serve? Serve in confidence others. It is the boss that is illumined by the mind that counts. Only a small boss. There it's actually no floor of the boss. When you any thoughts, nothing to your thoughts. Because you think this is a deep thoughts or great thoughts.

[39:18]

Your practice is not anymore through practice. Don't be involved in good or bad, high or low. Just do what you should do at that moment. Thank you very much. Osiroshi. Automobile will reset in Cisco. Jet plane to New York. Rockets to the moon.

[40:20]

Where does instant mind go when it's not here? Instant. Instant mind. Yes. Where does the mind go when it's not here? Mind does not go or come back. Mind is always here. The mind is wandering apart. It's not through mind. There is no question that is not answered before it is asked.

[41:23]

There is no question that is not answered before it is asked. Mm-hmm. Every question is answered when you ask questions or whatever. Gotcha, Roshi. Do it all. in the present moment and to be totally involved in the present moment and yet it seems so impossible with so much dealing and so many thoughts it seems so impossible too many thoughts it's alright that is not the point

[42:44]

The point is to be concerned about too many thoughts or no thoughts. All thoughts. All the thoughts you have is one thought. I'm not saying to stop your activity. I'm not counting how many thoughts you have. All the thought you have is originally one thought.

[43:56]

If it is one thought, that is no thought. So, don't be concerned about the thought you have. Don't be bothered by You should think. To think is all right. But to be bothered by it. Although this could be a good thought or a bad thought, it's bad. Right, very much. Dr. Roshi, now it was piled deep in the mountain pass, making it nearly impenetrable.

[45:04]

How do we pass from here? If you want to pass, you can. There's no discarding in passing through. Is there any difficulty? Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you for coming to the United States. Thank you for bringing us your teaching. And thank you for showing me this new bike. Thank you very much.

[46:14]

Thank you. Dr. Rashi, what now? Don't ask me. Now is now. You have now. I have my own now. That is why now is so important. It is given question and answer. Thank you very much. Dr. Roshi, who are the Sahara? We are those who are in the Sahara, in Sahara, in Dimitri.

[47:17]

But all of us, all ancient beings are Sahara. Thank you very much. That's your question. If everything changes, why is the road separate? Because. Because of change. Change is better. It separates. If change is essential in nature, For everything, suffering cannot be avoided. Because there's no way to avoid from it.

[48:26]

If you know there's no other way to avoid from it, then it's a relief. Neither mind nor Buddha. What is this? Neither mind nor Buddha. What is this? Neither mind nor Buddha. What did you say? Neither mind nor Buddha. Point that. The real Buddha. we are caught by the word of Buddha.

[49:34]

If we say Buddha, we want to find where it's Buddha when Buddha is right here. So neither might nor would we say. Dr. Roshi, who observes our way? You observed our way, when you observe our way, everything observes our way.

[50:39]

So, our way is in the personal way, and that is the That's the same thing. You run along the way. Yakusanzenji Yakusanzenji did not give lecture for a long time.

[51:50]

The monks asked him to give them lecture. The accident engine mounted on the altar. I see every monk, one by one, and carried down from the altar and went back. to his own room again. The monk asked the monk who was responsible for the... Zendo asked him why did he, didn't he give any lecture.

[52:58]

Yasson said, There is a master. There is a scripture master for a Buddhist philosophy master. I am a master of them. Don't wonder who I am," he said. Zen monks are Zen monks because they are speaking infuriantly, without saying anything, just by everyday activity.

[54:27]

That is how Zen students should be. That is why I said Buddha started giving teaching when he attained enlightenment under the Bodhi tree in the country of Magadha. We should not forget this point. And we should take care of our practice. Not only Jateng practice, but only whatever we do in Tathahara.

[55:31]

I'm very grateful for you to observe our way in various ways without asking why we do that or why we should do this. Whatever you do, that is our practice. There you find out yourself. Our practice is valuable because we can find out ourselves

[56:44]

on what people do in that moment.

[56:52]

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