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Sunday Lecture, children's talk: good medicine (cabin) anything remarkable, beautiful, unique, like a gift from nature that anyone was able to see or feel; in quiet you are able to see things others are not able to see; up to your armpits in quick mud, must break the suction to get out; root of medicine - medicees - to look, to cure, to heal (to make whole) - same root as meditation; monks and nuns had four requisites required for health: robes, food, lodging and medicine

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why i'm very happy to see on a young people this morning this is our monthly ah young people's lecture so the first part of lecture will be devoted to their children in the front and either any children and in the back
jack who would like to just come up and can't see her laugh you went to this
places you can snuggle in
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after the talk this morning you're going to go down to the garden
and when he and matt are going to do a special project with you done their due to the stomach
and you're going to be planting a special house how many of you know about this special house some of you have worked canopy for
ah and this is a house like is no one has ever seen before this is a house that will be made of flowers growing flowers
and i wanted to tell you about another special house their two young boys made many years ago in the woods it they called it they're good medicine cabin
and these two boys are about eight years old adage one was named tom and one was named rick
and this is a true story
and they met each other in the woods when they were both searching for fossils down by the stream bed they didn't know each other but they are both looking for fossils and they found that the other person was looking for fossils to and they started talking and they talked and talked and talked the whole day and by the end of the day they were best for
fence and went down plan the woods together all the time
and weeks grandfather was an apache native american from the apache tribe
in his name was stocking wolf and stocking wolf became tom and weeks teacher
but he was a very interesting kind of teacher because he never told them anything he never gave them any answers to their questions and they had so many questions about nature and animals and the weather and the woods but he never gave them any answers he would just go
give them more questions
he would ask them questions and then they'd set off to try to answer it themselves
and that's how they learned from him and they learn by their own experience
so when they built their cabin a good medicine cabin they chose a spot
where something very special happened they were sitting under a tree one day in the summer on a summer day like today and they heard this enormous flapping sound and they lived up in the tree and there was a huge eagle that had landed in the branches big
giant bird about fifty pounds they said of feathers and life
and it and they'd looked up and they just stared at it and then the bird took off and he said it was as if he could grab the sun in his talons and fly away with it
and the two of them were
a just for speechless and they knew that something very special and happened at a have been able to see this eagle
and stocking with the grandfather called this kind of thing good medicine good medicine what was anything that was really remarkable and unique and beautiful like a gift from nature they one was able to see or feel
and so they decided to build their cabin right there under that tree and they call that area the good medicine grounds and that was the good medicine cabin
so this isn't good medicine isn't just the regular old beauty of nature and beauty of the world but it's something where if you were to see it or experience in
would have to make comments about it or say something everybody who witnesses it really feels that this was something special
so they built their good medicine kevin they are under the tree
and also you will have taught them to be very very quiet in the woods
the and to have to pay very close attention because if you did then you would see the good medicine and it could be a very small thing good medicine was also
it could be very tiny didn't have to be a gigantic bird can be very tiny but something that would open out into more mysteries like are they called the mice good medicine mice because if you've learned all about the mice they would then teach you all about the other animals in the forest
so to be very quiet and forest and outside sometimes allows you to see things that other people can't see
when you tell you one other story about rick and town
they built near their cabin this platform near the stream out of logs and one day there is sitting on it they had just taken a swim in the stream and they're lying on their log a platform
and they saw a frog and the frog was sick climbed up onto the log and was looking around and then all a sudden the frog
leaped if it is acted as if it hurt something and it leapt into the air and right us the frog leap a fish called of pickerel leaped up from the water caught it in mid air and swallowed it whole and landed in the water and rick and tom were just they were just whooping with joy and
patting each other on the back and leaping around they'd never seen such an amazing thing and then the pickerel leapt out again as if taking a bow and plunged back into the into the water and then made the boys just work to get in just were jumping for joy
so much that rick fell off the platform into the mud
and there he was deep in the mud up to his armpits but this mud wasn't just regular old mud this mode was what you call quick mud which is very similar to quicksand you know what quicksand is yeah could send is a kind of 'em substance
mud and sand altogether that sucks you down under and you can't get out and you get pulled down so there was rick
up to his armpits and quitman
and tom tried to pull them out and he wouldn't budge he was stuck really stuck and he had his feet on something he said i'm on solid ground so i'm okay but tom was afraid he might be on a law or something that would roll and then he'd go often get sucked under
so rick made a kind of thumb
a vine rope and threw it to him and tried to pull them out nothing would work he could not get him out for and it was getting darker and for three hours he was sitting there poorly and trying to do it and finally he remembered about hearing of another boy who had fallen into quick mud a bomb
i'm near there near where they lived and they tried to get him out and finally someone said you just have to break the section and the fire department came and ran a hose in and sprayed water in that in next to him and that broke the section and this other boy was able to get out so time remembered that
and he decided he would there is the stream so there was water what could he do so he jumped into the stream which was almost over his head and he held onto some branches and began to dig out dig out dig out the match between the stream and his friend rick
and he dug and dug and dug and finally he reached and could feel his friend and at that point the water from the stream flowed in broke the section and up came rick kind of like report like rising like a bubble
well the two of them climbed out rinsed off the mud and lay down on the young platform and and went to sleep that night both knowing what they had to do in the morning
and they got up early because that's the best time to do certain things and the tour from looking at each other they both understood what they had to do and they both leapt off the platform into the mud into the quick back for tour home
because stalking with had taught them that
in nature if you
are not afraid and don't panic and go with nature it can never hurt you that's what he taught them and they believed that they they held this is a very strong faith they had faith in but they had to test it so they jumped back into the quick equipment both of them
and they struggle they walled around and until you're really stuck and then they began to work out how to get out they knew they had to break the section how are they gonna do it and they worked at it and worked and worked at it until finally
they figured it out and they freed themselves and as tom said tom wrote the book
this book is a very good book it's called the tracker by tom brown jr and i highly recommend it to everybody in the world
so what they did was they would they began to move one knee back and forth and back and forth and back and forth until and while they did that they move their bottom back and forth until they had gotten a little little bit of a room and then they brought their neat up and that broke the section or don't then they took their hand and push down
down so some air went in and that broke the section
and then they tried it again just to make sure until they had it down
so
so there's lots of adventures of tom and rick and stocking wolf
ah so now
but i won't don't i don't recommend jumping into quicksand
equipment unless you have somebody at least the first time who knows how to get out and can help you but once you learn then you can get out and tom said over his life that same technique got amount of quicksand and quit been many many times
so on
think it's time for you to go with wendy and mat down to the garden to make your your sunflower house and i hope that it will be a good medicine house and that you can come and visit it as it grows taller tall tall it through the summer
okay thank you very much for coming
thank you

there's more seats up in front of everyone if anyone who's perched on the side board would like to come and sit down there's cushions

there's also cookies at t that they're going to serve to if you want to go with the kids know

so good medicine
i had
a good medicine dream last week and i dreamt tom
that i was introduced to an older woman she was very tan and
it's very fit looking and
she had white hair and
and she put out her hand to shake my hand and i went to shake her hand and when i reached your hand i realized she didn't have a thumb and a couple of fingers were missing and so i kind of couldn't get ahold of her hand to shake and kind of missed
and i was very young
i was serve embarrassed but she was completely comfortable and and kind of grab my hand and the way that she
ah had worked out to shake hands with her
disability or lack of fingers and just shook my hand in that way very strongly and she was so comfortable with being who she was that i became very comfortable to meeting her
ah the word medicine
ah the root of the word medicine
ah what it comes from the word that means doctor of the enlightened medic medic coos because and and the root of that is a med part means
ha
to look after to cure
to heal
and also it's the root of meditate it's the same route
and the word he'll ah
means to make whole
and
the root of the word heel or or heel
means to make whole it also has it is in the root words that the route the words air connect with that are hello let which means blessing uninjured
holy
so all these words are connected with word here which is connected with medicine
so the buddha shakyamuni buddha was often called the supreme physician
because he was able to heal or make whole i help people make themselves whole
and
so he was called the supremes physician that which he taught was called medicine or the dharma was called medicine and then the sanga is are the triple treasures the sanga or the practitioners were like the attendance to the sick who would help administer the young therapeutic
remedies and so forth of the dharma
and in the buddhist time he recommended
various things for for one's health physical health the the order of monks and nuns had for requisites which were robes food lodging and medicine they had to have those four things
and the boot of felt that down shakyamuni buddha various
ah felt that what you took in what you ate was very very important to eat properly as a preventative medicine and to keep yourself well
and he highly recommended one particular food as having more benefits than anything else which
ah
i thought i just mentioned you he recommended rice milk or rice cooked with milk so it's kind of soupy country with lumps of honey in it
designing a race pretty
ah
and there were five other substances that were highly recommended for the monks and nuns as medicine and that was ghee which is clarified butter fresh butter oil honey molasses
and i think all of these some
substances taken they were all
you know elements of of someone's diet that they were taken as medicine nowadays you know in giant amounts
ah so this was all good medicine
now the buddha ministered or you know head recommendations for physical health and also ah
once to cure the ills of one spirit or
the inner ah
suffering of people so when he he would visit people who are sick and if they were dying and there was no hope for them to recover he would recommend that the
meditate on or bring up to my bring to mind impermanence the truth of impermanence and nothing
is forever
and if someone was
and there was some hope that they would live he would have the meditate on the seven limbs of enlightenment which are ah
a mindfulness investigating dharmas are or phenomena
ah
tranquility
equanimity
samadhi or concentration
stabilization and i can remember that seven or not but these this kind of meditation or calling to mind this would help someone
for whom there was still life that they would be healing
so
taking one's medicine is sometimes sometimes the medicine is very bitter it is not easy to take up
a spiritual practice and really look at your life thoroughly and carefully
one sees all sorts of things that are very embarrassing and very hard to look at negative states of mind and deeds that we've done in the past that are have been harmful or we've heard people we begin to see this kind of thing and the the healing buddha the medicine buddha
ah
really encourages us to look at our actions of body speech in mine and to see where we need to work and to turn our lives and this is very can be very bitter difficult work
how but we have to drink that we have to drink that medicine
ah young in psychological terms young says that we have to completely drink the dregs of the complex and the complex is
when certain conditions arise one has a yeah
habitual response emotional response that may be very negative and it just kind of has a life of its own when these certain conditions arise it activates a certain kind of response over and over and over and in and psychology he says we have to completely
drink the dregs of the complex
driggs our on a sediment that forms at the bottom of liquid if you're making wine or maybe beer also there's some sediment that's left at the bottom
and this is you know you want the clear liquid above you don't want that sentiment you want to leave it at the bottom right but here's this
ammunition to completely drink the dregs completely taste the dregs know but we don't want to that the root of the word drag
driggs means on
the sediment and also the
the unwanted and the a
it comes from the route that means darkness and mud mighty and it's associated with the word dragon dragon is to drag something through the water and the mud to get dirty by dragging it through the mud someone who has been dragged old you know comes in bedraggled they
i've been dragged through the mud
so the route and associated with
ross there were dross which is when you're in metallurgy when you're you have a liquid metal and on top of the middle when you
during this process is a kind of scummy foam that forms on the top it's called dross and it's you know it's something you don't want mixed in with the middle and it rises up use skim it away i guess so there were dregs and dross and darkness and readiness
are all connected up
so the ammunition from young is to completely drink the dregs of the complex
meaning your own
habitual route nice way of and condition responses to the world that are not where you feel bound and not free to respond in any way shape or form your kind of have this pattern old pattern over and over so
you have to completely
understand nights i would say completely
ah study that thoroughly completely thoroughly and drink for drinks
don't want to drink the dregs of we want a drink the good stuff and leave the dregs alone you know
the buddha disciple that he transmitted to his name was a pia and up here or macaca show a sharp yeah the the word kershaw pm means drinker of light
and when up he was a baby was born just born
this golden light pervaded the room where he was born and them that light all came and went right into his mouth though
this light from the room went gun to his mouth so he was named drinker of light
well i think we often want to be the drinker of the light right we don't be
we want to avert from the dregs and drink the light
ah so once this light is inside you know that the connotation of having the light inside you've have been can come out to the mouth or come out to
your actions
so we may be able to fool ourselves to think that we are the drinkers of light and are we studying and practicing and going to dharma talks and drinking in the light is less well again
coun
there's a column that we've been steady in book of serenity in the colon class and it's called longbows slipper of dregs is the name of them
and he points to this
he won bow was a very marvellous zen teacher and he had assembly filled with ah
many many students who had come to listen to drink the light right to get the truth in hereabout buddhism and how to practice and how to be free in and they they had assembled to stay with him
and down
one day in the assembly
he
tried to drive them out of here it would be like hear you all are maybe this is similar maybe you could ask yourself
if this is
what's happening right now ah
fill and assembly filled with sincere as and students and
and he says what are you people
ah thank you doing
if you go on like this you will lose today you tried to drive them all out and also just stood there and didn't do anything and he's he said you're all slippers of dregs if you go on like this how how are you have today
do you know that there are no teachers of chan and all of china
so here's a group of people and guy who have come to steady and to teach but
what is it up
how is it that he would call them slippers of dregs and the drinking in the light don't they want the teaching from this wonderful teacher that's acknowledged and known
why is this dregs
how how come he's a slipper of dregs
so in working with this call on for me i had to ask myself
how is it when i come can listen to a dharma talk or go to a class what what's happening with me am i trying to get something that's out there that i'd take resides in this special person who's sitting out there and then i'm going to listen and then i'm going to get some of the light you know
i'm going to drink it up
that's i feel like that's very confused that's kidding myself are fooling myself into believing and seeking for something outside
and this is not drinking light even no one might fool themselves into thinking it's light this is drinking this the sediment this driggs
so on
over and over and over we are admonished that in fact i'll i'll read what
zen master kazan on
ah has to say about this
mrs drags right
he says zen studied demands that you investigate and awakened on your own
so this seeking for it from somebody else to get it from seventy else is completely overlooking this demand that you seek it on your own that you investigated and waken on your own
and how about this although there has never been anything to give to anyone or anything to receive from anyone it is necessary to experience this as intimately as feeling the nose on your face
how's it feel
feeling the nose on your face to know as thoroughly as that if there is nothing that anybody can give you nothing you can get from anybody else
and there never was
so
can we sit in lecture or class
with this ah
rather than the mind of seeking for something outside trying to fill ourselves
now
you may think this is kind of paraphrasing case on and also others and teachers
but i i say it because i choose to say it
because i feel it myself
but you may think that ah
there's some special category of people that practice then they have some special capacity or a special i don't know what chutzpah or it's really exotic and
they can do it but i can't do it you know outcome and kind of dabble a little bit or drag a little bit
but down you know i'll leave that i'll leave the practice of zen to those who really have this can a special quality or something now you know case says about that kind of thinking he says sir
you may think that buddhist zen is just for special people and that you're not fit for it but such ideas are the worst kind of folly
and another translation is the stupidest of stupid
numbers and then he goes on who among the ancients was not immortal whose personality was not influenced by social and material values who didn't have a father and mother who didn't have friends and pressures and this that the other
ah
but when they studied zen they were able to ah
penetrate through
and understand that drink with understand when drugs are driggs than their dregs
and then they're not dregs anymore
and you can drink them and then it is drinking light
so one bosses
you're all slippers of drags
he he wants people to look at how their to have a gaming idea and mind that seeking outside looking out all over instead of turning in everybody has capacity this is your around this is here
good medicine gift
so on
so don't you know there are no teachers of zen in all of china and then there's some
student comes for him and comes up from the the crowd and coming from the back of the room appearances so
but what about all these people who have gathered students and i have practice centres all over china and one boy said i didn't say there was no xin i said there was no teachers of san
so to set up a teacher as something outside yourself that's got it
is and then going after that and
ah is not the study of zen is pointing to this now there's another story of one of our ancestors a nanda
a nando was
the buddhist cousin and the word and not enemies joy and delight who's very beautiful person and he was born on the night that shakyamuni buddha attained enlightenment
join the order enlist the is very very close attendant and ananda was very intellectually
he was brilliant brilliant person
and he also he was very instrumental in seeing that the women's order was established in india he helped on
intercede on behalf of a women who wanted to take vows and become nuns he interceded on their behalf so he was very beloved by
the women's order of nuns and the buddha he was most beloved by the buddha and he was his companion for twenty years but the buddha did not translate to a nanda the buddha transmitted to a shop yeah drinker of light
but he asked not to help her shop here to help transmitted and so he became after the buddha guide he became a shop has attendant for another twenty years and he had memorized all of the buddhist teachings everything the boot ever said even things that he wasn't alive for bitch
cause he was born you know
and the buddhist matter of his of the night of the buddha's enlightenment so
wow sutures that the buddha spoke before and under
was old enough to hear them he also was able to enter into a samadhi concentration state and hear those two so everything the boot ever said ananda
knew by heart and after the buddha diving in what he was not invited to this convocation of our hats
because he had not yet become an are hot and the night before
he was able to become an our hot so he was invited to this meeting and they asked him to speak and he spoke all of the buddhist words starting off with thus have i heard the buddha was dwelling it the deer park or wherever and and he would speak and all the people there said is this not the buddhists own words is the
it's not a second coming of the buddha here he knows everything that the boot ever said but still the buddha did not interest to him the via true dharma i and
so he stayed with kashyap here for twenty more years and find me
one day
he asked a shopping a question and he said to him
did the buddha hand and over anything to you are transferred anything to you besides the golden sleeve robe
car shoppers and ananda
and amanda responded yes
anka shop is that take down the banner pole in the front and in the front of the gate
and at this anonymous enlightened
now that the banner pole first to a custom when buddhists and other religious sects would come to a village and they were going to debate and each talk about their teachings they would each plant a banner pole set them out and then they'd have this debate and people would come to listen
and when one of when one side or another was defeated they would take down their banner pool
so well
so here's a nun to asking what else did the buddha give to you or hand you transmit to yoga shop here besides the golden sleeved role
and cassiopeia have this some
he are
felt that amanda was ripe
and he just called his name ananda and unarmed just responded yes
and at that he could take down the banner pole
in the front gate
take down the batter pool
for me means
there's nose use in having to banner polls anymore as if there was a nanda in cash shop yeah
separate from each other there was complete understanding and you just need one banner pole one for the two of them as there is total communion between them so take down years
so nanda even though he had the buddhist words you know that he could give at a moment's know what he knew everything that booed ever said and this teaching he could expound and he was brilliant this did not necessarily mean that he understood the heart of fun
the heart of zen or his own heart
so you know what we call the buddha's words and all these sutures in anonymous mouth with those be dregs where he been just a drag her
i don't know
ah
i don't know if you have to answer that yourself
so on
so once
once we understand very thoroughly our own drag slurping and what's driggs once there's once we understand our confusion ah
when it doesn't matter than than drags can be driggs or not trades than we play freely in the mud just like tom and with that we jumped back into the equipment and we wallow in there and get all stuck and then we are
find our way to get out again for the benefit of all beings we find our way and show other people the way
ah
and and just like her and rick there was no panic you know they leapt back and they knew what they had to do you have been a leap back into the mud because if they went with nature
ah
nature would never hurt them that was what they were gonna prove
and so they just played in the muck their equipment
and this is like a lotus and muddy water you know right in the mud
hello
kay thank you very much
me to ask questions or have comments or help each other
and have a discussion about the talk or whatever else to that your mind so georgia
did everybody hear the question
deirdre as since there are no teachers of xin and we're supposed to learn from our own experience how is it or war why is it that we go and talk with teacher is it was that the last part down

she would close the doors and to yeah what we'll do that

i guess i feel like asking you
about going to the teacher what happened what do you
is there something that happens for you that's helps you to realize
that we you have to understand it by yourself because that happened freedom
what has happened
often i understand
realize i
yes

it's essential
so the admonition to not good is not same don't talk to any teacher it's that don't you know there aren't any teachers or how about think you might say don't you know that you yourself are are not separate from you know
or it turns that but it doesn't mean to not go and talk to somebody in fact
you know them
sometimes as talked about as a three legged stool in others
thousand
study and then talking with somebody so if you're just talking with somebody that you never sit than the store falls over
if you're sitting a lot and going to lectures and classes but you never talk with anybody one on one you follow her
if you've got lots lectures and talked to people all the time it you never said it you know it's so you need all three to to have that three legged stool be stable but down
to actually investigate how it is you are when you go to see teacher are you are you seeking are you
like that but don't stop
so how it fits in that there could be someone young and full of life and joy and
and
too young to have slurped too young to have
that
ah
oh i see
well that ammunition was from young in carl young and it's about that particular reference was about the complex you know so
ah
it was very amazing to me because here we are we were working on this column for the last year for weeks and class or three weeks to two weeks and then we had worked at it previously
and so then to have this other phrase from a whole of the discipline come up you know the to
we're very it was a very attention between the two of that which gotten very interested so
the am
ah you know i'm not young people who are full i mean little kids are full of life and play and fun and
no there's a certain time when it
conditions are such were the the complex that say or the difficulties begin to really arrived initiatory junctures like leaving home or or a death or i mean it you know at certain times the conditions are such things will will come forth
haven't come forth good for difficulties lessee and so people when they come to practice often
people who come and actually stay with practice often are some the pain that's brought them to want to just sit still
but that doesn't negate the fact that they also can be joyous and have fun and you know it doesn't completely color of someone's life in all aspects it's not tell me
inherent meaning it's not like this solid lumpy thing it if conditions are such sadness horizons or pain arises or so i don't know if the two things our own
you know often we're we're able to compare compartmentalised and actually set things aside and keep keep them at bay for a while anyway until just for our own health wholeness meaning they'd come up the light and dark need to be
the joined again so this often happens you know in the teens early twenties are kind of times in their younger people have lots a difficult to
just in the cycle though there are times when that begins to really come forward to say that suit
why am i
could you if possible
the life
oh i see doc like drag dragged me a lot
yes
well our human condition you know include certain factors like
old age sickness and death for example that i mean some people don't have old age because they get sick and dying young are some people don't get sick but they do get old and die or so it's either combination of the three or one of the other you know and to be ready for one's death or to be wrong
ready to meet at sickness you know this thing about the medicine
oh
the having medicine as one of the requisites for the monks and nuns had partially had to do with the fact that they're trying to do these meditation practices and
what happens when you get sick sometimes have some of you know this very thoroughly
you begin to not have the energy to even greater practice anymore it's like you can't find it anymore it's just
you know you just have to lie there and
but your practice goes out the window you know so to to keep 'em
to have these medicines and preventative medicines like good food it's over for the benefit of your practice not can keep yourself fit and you know
for its own sake but in order to continue your practice so
it gives very difficult when these changes rapid changes in your body and mind happen very hard even if you've been credited to your whole life to
d their present and with a flexible mine and so it when now you know your body is stopping functioning so yes i think there are some people who
have a kind of gift or artistry of living life you know i think there are and due to the call some routes they planted in past lives or for whatever karmic reasons and still there's always old age sickness and death to one you know
to be ready for
hey
yes i would go down or have you talk about when the buddha will go
bill that would be we will advise them to
the fundamentals of other
ah
i'm in a situation where my father baby one a park
surgery in mind the from time to time
and now either way children and now but when i go to feed him there no problem i have pain but at least safe gonna be with him in and than from my feet
being with a when i don't know bringing him go i asked them to breed them
a a relationship
even though that you and pain
ah feel that i helped them and i built my bill
but sometimes i just call him when i go here
the tell me that he doesn't one of the the more and now
even pain
and i got i i i want to give them by but i don't feel that i i have the right to you to get by because i don't know what is to be near death
ah but i i only do something like that the that remembered that region real we can do that you know if there's nothing you can reject to bring that forward and bill
and now i wonder if you have an elaborate a little bit about how tell somebody that is no pay in the possibility of death what really gonna do
the people

i think it's very hard on the phone for one you know cannot be
right there with the person body to body it i think it's much harder on the phone
bomb
and also the fact you know the buddha was the teacher re recognized and would come and may
the people he met with we're ready to hear an open to it you know but sometimes with our own parents
the parent children parent and child because of all the young the pattern of our relationship over all the fears it's very hard sometimes for them
although i'm
you know this particular book i was looking at called the healing buddha
ah the it has these translations of to suitors
that have not been translated before about healing body serpents to human body surface to brother that you can call him to help and and they they actually say that the budisa will come in the body of are they vote
take the appearance of anyone close to the person that child and a wife with them and and then they can do it
things to help
so in some ways
you know someone close child or wife mother can numb
can say just the right thing sometimes to you know why you don't want to discount us a child being able to help
but you know often that
from you know i haven't done a lot of hospice work or on head
come with guy and i am there are a number of people this lot of research here for people who have been down the little that i have done the most especially if of actively dying which it sounds like your dad is not really
active u has but he's he's in a decline in your is
and to run
listen and not you know for someone to feel that you are willing to be there and not turn away
to be within exactly how they are without having any
designs i'm them being different or
that is one of the most helpful things so ain't even over the phone you know
to completely be with whatever he saying not necessarily
agree or disagree
but i hear you get you know and i would that you know kinda work does it hurt yes no word that hurt
i think that you have a problem book alive
you know where to be coming from
am i feeling that there's an emotional thing that can not visualized by you always be in the heart knowing that you know when they operate the heart thing they got the of the never been but to get to hear more who and i think you people always for me to the heart but
i got my feeling very dumb emotional thing that you've got the one who recognize berman
your we are
no they can meet the world being roses were by no problem with fit in ghana
and i think that really visualizing not be certain that the bathroom of that point that now a world in i think it's a desecration
go fuck am i think how can i help them but
i i have found a way other than that where the thing coming from or telling him to breathe or the paper yes i was just wondering not there's more of the get that book
i want you to many prescription about yeah i would just live
you know my dad's having difficulties to and i i touch with them day before yesterday said how's it going into
i said what's going on and he said not a damn thing he's very bitter you know about
being so disabled now he had a stroke so there's a lot of anger there and i to you know
anyway the person has got can do their own work and you can't do it for them and yet you can and it's very and maybe some other people can add to this conversation it's very painful to be around someone who is not doing their work you know and as wishing that it can be other an angry and in denial and then
it's much harder for you but you but even staying there with that
without trying to get in there and fix it former make them look look over here impermanence that it's all impermanent like goal you know it can can
guess what the it work
my mother
brother
other countries
listen to the directly at the here
that
one

this day
facing death and finding hope can you new here
huh
and i said my mother died
after a you
my father left ago
die
he's not here yet but i've been going to similar to the radio that thing that people
the can prepare and understand their profit and night classes at what it can be done there are both written by david
why are facing death he found or by bible
was third time to have to admit country
journey to avoiding my heart to begin when known as the and will get before a yeah it's a definite
the nightmare of like fish you know a boy but a lot of think there's a very fine that you have a bookkeeper to bet on them
a very thin
better
my phone than am
i can you hear what martha skip
she mentioned that she also has a missing finger and was you know interested in this dream figure that had the missing fingers that i spoke about him
how this woman handle herself and how martha handled yourself in situations and also the point about after practicing for wild things beginning to bubble up and the union or reunion of light and dark eden
so on the stream figure i think for me it was some
a very positive positive
the image or or figure out how to be in the world completely exposed just yourself express yourself with all your
the injuries and disabilities and failings and limitations you'd just that's where you are and how do you do you know you put the hand out how do you do and
like that you just
ah so i think as a message for me as what place to work more know or to put my attention to on
just being out there just who i am i cat so was very very encouraging as i said good medicine
to meet her and
what i think wholeness you know a wholeness is not just the light wholeness is understanding your limitations
ah
oh you know the shadow if you want to talk about psychological term shadow was all the stuff that you are so
embarrassed about you wanna get an out of here you don't want anybody to know about it you know you keep it back there will it just comes out in other ways or gets projected on other people all the things you hate about himself you see in others and hate them for it you know so to be to have that stuff come out and p m
ah
integrated you know is homeless homeless is or it's not just being it's not been perfect credits or or i should say perfection is the light dark integrated that's they can cruise for
so that's wholeness and and also you know that i love the roots of words as seventy nine
to have and when we know this whole and holy and wholesome and held and hale hale and hearty you know it's all the same route
coming from to heal i mean he'll coming from all that
yeah yeah
yeah
jerk
africa africa
to completely drink the dregs of the complex is to totally accept and
under and study basically all your stuff right and it's bitter medicine so there's that and then i think i i was relating it to this call on where they say you're all drag slippers
meaning you think it because there's some confusion about what you think you're drinking the light like a shop here a drink or of light and you're just seeking outside yourself to get stuff and that driggs slurping so that that was the
yeah
well
you know the pain of being in the grip of the complexes so because complexes have like feels like an autonomous life to them you know they're like you know unbidden they are comes you know you didn't set out but there it's like
sometimes described as a plant you know it's got the conscious part of it and then underneath the roots that are fed by the unconscious you know that you can't get at are consciously you know so that's very it's one needs help often you know that we're particular help to on
one often can't get out of by themselves it's it's
because it's in the dark you know what once
where the roots are going in and how it's been nourished you'd like you feel like you're working at in untangling it meanwhile your over here knitting it back together unbeknownst to yourself you know so things like that
maybe operating and so you know this
variety of ways to get help and officially
the bay area would we were blessed with you don't
so many different ways you know to one work with unconscious material and or conscious and unconscious for two
so
you know the drink in the driggs is like
being thoroughly and utterly sick of it you know sick of this thing coming up over know i am i wanna be done with it but but you have to thoroughly thoroughly drink you if we can say that but busily as they say we getting it going again in ways on
it has to be thoroughly ready
to be done
and that often takes you know a lot of work lot of work
so anyway
yes
oh i thought erasure yes ten
that woman
yeah
can
he kept that you like
tragedy
was dead
the
oh joy and all
yeah
that
what

yeah he was over the greek you know he'd combined the joy and pain together and we really believe you will feel pain that passion that's right
that's right
yeah
well this you know this plane the
two am
you don't play in the world of samsara could play with other is is a term that's used for him
ah you know when you realize
when you have your realization than you can play in the world of sometimes it doesn't mean that people aren't guy than there's not old age sickness and death but the way you relate to others and help you with display that's worth so i think service
yeah
yeah
yes dance yeah back
yes
just came to mind
so this west african ever can goddesses the goddess of the ocean is symbolic and anything else about her

she accepts like ocean accepts everything now
healing
ah
well you know i'm going to dream interpretation but
a what it reminded me of as we were just came up when he said that is this call on were messy
in the koran it says that you should not
you should live your life you shouldn't say that send out a wooden duck or wouldn't goose
so it's a sacrifice the window or don't sacrifice a secretary
yeah and and what this referred to in the colon was the practice of when you're in a boat on some of these rivers that you navigated china
when you get to a place where you don't know the rapids or how the waters and occurrence you send out a wooden they call it wouldn't go through and duck
it's like a block of when you send it out first many watch how it goes down the river so that you can follow that pattern
and what the colonists speaking about his don't live your life in that way meaning strategizing and say okay going to do this and that matt ahead of time where you instead it says don't
don't send out a wind goose can live compassionately new
you're not hedging your bets you know like that where you're holding back and kind of watching what good next thing is good to do you just plunge in you know to the ocean movie and me what is to be met full on without any pre
you know prep work kind of so anyway that's what it reminded me of
but that that's it's a wonderful strong southern a strong dream
yeah
what's the problem with the them over there pole vaulter that yeah oh yeah oh yeah i that's he has echo
there's a duck the city on the water i it was the last lecture i gave that was the end of it
and she's just riding the waves and she doesn't know anything about a religion but she sure has it and that's one of the parts
she just lets the wave come and go and just ride some think that she's sitting right there in the middle of the ocean
and she doesn't know that she separate from the ocean she just is in the ocean
you are dead that luxury was in march

the lecture was after the dream or that
how well
that's interesting because of the ocean and the goddess and the that can now
one time

oh
a while
get that
he to it
really
to sacrifice the duck

yes
what you mean by really
he said do we ever really killing thing
i think that's a good very good question
ah
the am
the aim if there's an aim is to
thoroughly study whatever is going on
so if it's the complexes or if it's bad habits or fits your dreams or the person in front of you
have thoroughly be there for that now it's just so happens that if you thoroughly study like a route nice habitual way of being it can change right and weekend and kind of you know eventually gets kind of like sort of misty
vapor and it doesn't arise in the same way anymore you know but the aim is not to okay i'm going to get rid of all these bad things so then i'm going to be then i'll be all spanking clean and ready for buddha or something
but it's more whatever whatever is there i will study it
thoroughly and be present
and that endeavor or that
effort right there is
his practice and practice realization are
ah you know it's like one word practice dash realization it's practice realization so your one's practice in that way is the combination of your
steady as well
so but but our tendency is think over and over and over to fall into the what you describe as a real pitfall you know if i do this then i'll be
a good girl you know or if i get rid of these them they'll like me or if if i miss within the future will think and great so we fall into that like head over somersault in over and over and over which is greg slurping really
you know thinking that you can do something
i could get something else you know
you know i'm just sitting zazen as a thorough expression of self without trying to get anything out of it
is you know that's one of the pip i mean that's keeping years as impure

well
what
right
well
the question was
am i using the phrase drinking the driggs and the dregs slippers as two separate things and
which was your question how how does to relate actually australia
i think could drink totally drink in the dregs of a complex is thoroughly studying your stuff you know completely and it and if you do that then
and not fool yourself the mets not drink slurping from the other from the car right right but if you're if you're totally understand that your drink slurpee the that's that drinks for the anymore
right that's it
because you're thoroughly study so they transform with your own effort with your practice
pinker
yes

for each person their connection with with it is is that the mystery and so for you
that's your can turn this dream and to steady yourself on what is the previews is the most important thing you know you just gotta take from me and it take from this gentleman but for you to one
you can just enquire about it to have that question and they will be a response of some sort if you stay with it so
yes
ah yeah
you
nine

no

but
why
enjoy
one
our sacrifice means to make sacred minutes the or and there's various ways that that can happen michelle to children families don't have one
i put
yes

yeah probably yeah
mental formations in the m
buddhist understanding where complexes fit in
meant the permissions yeah i'm going to look at my walk because we're supposed to end early today because lunches early i have just about twelve three
is there anybody who's really wanting to say something

go ahead
ah
well it's know ignorance is on the telephone chain of causation and when you go around the chain it's what you know if the way you work the chain is
as if ignorance is present then there's correct formations ignorance karma formations consciousness name and form six cents fields contact feeling craving grasp and becoming birth old age and death so you could say that the the cause of ignorance if old age and death and mean i'm a chain that's what come
right before it is just being just being born old age birth old age and death and then becoming again it's like the next birth you come in with ignorance so
you know that's
the basic ignorance that they're talking about is believing in ah
self and other that's the ignorance that's been pointed to
so
i don't know about the cause of that it's it's
you know historically when our consciousness actually split and was able to see things that self and other virginiana his consciousness and the vi of vision is to like vivisection to cut and the certain point we
as opposed to one animals and plant life we actually
saw on itself another separate which is the basic endurance that's being worked with
so
because it
a good lead good
okay well thank you over which i haven't heard the open yet but why don't we close down if everyone could help with young chairs those rows of chairs go back in the closet and then do the exact was insolvent house gets stacked and yeah so all these fronts out
which avatar get stacked in the vestibule and the