Now, I'm going to talk for a while, and I want you all to hold your questions. Let me talk to you, kind of. Andrew. When I'm through with my main topic, we'll take questions. The way to ask questions is to raise your hand, and I'll call on you. And since we're a very small group and I can see all of you, you don't need to be real super energetic about getting my attention, because I know you can understand, but I'll try to be big and call on everybody to turn. It's like in school. Do that. Try to point and interrupt them. We talked last time about It's all about things like TV and watching TV. Most of us don't have TVs.

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It's one of the things we talk about. And I wanted to talk about today the difference between work and playing. We should all think about, have us think about together, what's the difference between work and playing? Because actually it's a pretty important thing to know. Usually, most people, and maybe children too, think that what children do is play, what grown-ups do is work. And there's also a third thing, which is a kind of play which grown-ups call entertaining. You all know the word entertaining? Like going to the movies is entertaining. And watching TV is sometimes entertaining. going to the football games, entertainment. So there are these different things. Entertainment is a kind of play, but it's not exactly play.

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It's a little different than play. But grown-ups also play sometimes, and they also have entertainment sometimes, and they work. And children also sometimes work, sometimes play, and sometimes are in a team. So usually when you think of children, you think that what children do is go out and play, right? You always say, do I go out and play? When you think of grown-ups, you think of grown-ups going out to go to work, job. But here at Greenville, it's not so clearly defined on the difference between work and play. I'd like to talk about it a bit with you and also get you thinking about this activity and what the value is of work, what the value is of playing, what the value is of entertainment. Most people in the world don't have time or the ability to get entertained.

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Most people, including children in the world, just work. because there is barely enough to eat in many countries in the world. You have to work all day just to get enough to eat, because those countries are very poor. We happen to live in a very rich country called the United States, which is actually one of the richest countries. Because we're so rich, there's lots of extra time to play and to be entertained as well as to work, and as children, for the most part, you may have to go back to work. If you go to school, play, and learn about them, then you can make a little bit of a living. Okay, okay, 18 years. So, at Green Gulch, mostly, the children don't,

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You don't have to do any work for all of Greenville. Most of your parents have chores that you have to do, some kind of work. Do some of you have chores to do, work to do? Sometimes probably you get some money for doing those chores, and sometimes you don't get money for it. So working doesn't always mean getting money. Sometimes working is just something that you have to do, like cleaning up your room. If you don't do that thing, that kind of work, then your life doesn't go so well. So if your room is a mess, you don't have your clothes put away, you can't find your clothes. So some kind of work isn't just work for money, it's work because you have to do it. Another example of work like that is cooking food. If you're mom and dad, we'll just cook the food on your feet. We don't have a cookbook. Absolutely.

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So that's another kind of work. Another kind of work is a job where you get paid for doing the work. And that kind of work, you do it more so that you can get the money for it. Maybe you don't really like doing it. You don't have to do it. Like, for instance, Amber works babysitting. Amber doesn't have to babysit to make her life go well, but she has to babysit if she wants the extra money. She doesn't even like babysitting. You know, Dion has washed cars. Dion doesn't have to wash any of these cars. Probably, he wouldn't do it. He wouldn't probably go wash my car just for the fun of it. It wouldn't even play. It wouldn't even work. He's doing it because people are getting money to do it, and with that money, he can buy other things, right? buy things that you want. Maybe that you can buy things that entertain you, like a video, so you can buy some turns at the video game, 7-Eleven or something like that, with the money that you've worked for, right? So we wouldn't think of playing video games at 7-Eleven as work, we'd think of it as play or entertainment.

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And, uh, I'm not quite sure what you mean by the way we're talking, we don't have questions. So, um, now the grown-ups here, Only? Yeah. then you go home at 5. Now, farmers, like in real farms, like where Gloria grew up, they don't work from 9 to 5. They get up early in the morning, like 5 in the morning or something like that, and you work probably until 6 or 7 at night, particularly when the season of things are growing.

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So not everybody works from 9 to 5. Usually it's Farm work takes a lot longer. It's very hard to do. But farm work is very important, because farm work is the work that makes the food that we eat. Without somebody doing farm work, none of us would ever be able to eat. So anyway, at Green Gulch, the grown-ups do work, but they're not doing that work exactly because they didn't eat, although we do give people some money. I don't know what's going on with that. Oh. Well, this is the children's collection, which David has a massive deposit. It's neat. I wouldn't know what it's going to be, but I thought it was nice. What do you think? Well, it's neat. You need to have a second table, you see.

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You feel a little bit? No, I see. Who are you asking? Are you finding people? Oh, I see. Okay. Well, maybe that would be a good place to stop. I can't stay too long today, so I'd like to see if you have any questions or if you have anything you'd like to say. Well, um... What's that? Two cents? Uh-huh. What'd you call that? Work or what? But is it fun?

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Is that right, Robin? And also, we work at school. Of course, a lot. Well, what do you like working at school? Do you like learning? mouth work we have um i see so you think that would be work or would that be maybe learning is another fun it's work it's work now but you're not getting paid for it so it doesn't work like a job right i know but it's still work we have to pay them right well actually you don't you Well, the way you get back is running. How do you get running and why? Well, it's not fun. It's not fun, really?

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Yeah, really. I was just going to say that sometimes Well, that's something like what I was trying to say about the way grownups working for e-girls. Most of us who live here, most of the grown-ups that live here, if we wanted to make more money, if money was what we're interested in, we'd go find a job. We like doing this. Most of us are here because we like it. It's almost like play for us, although it isn't play like... Maybe part of what play is, is that you can choose... You can choose, you can do what you want to do.

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So in that sense, grown-up Supreme Girls don't do what they want to do exactly, but it's still, so we have a choice and also we don't have to be here. So we're choosing, each of us are choosing to be here. Now, unfortunately for your children, unfortunately, however you may feel, you don't exactly have a choice if you're here because your parents are here, whether you want to do it or not. But still, I think there's, There are good things about being a Greek doctor. It's just part of what we're talking about. And so part of what I'm saying is that the way we live in Greekology isn't exactly like ordinary work. It isn't exactly like ordinary play. And it's also, what I and Robin thought of at the time, that going to school is a kind of work called learning. Or education is the bigger word. I'm sure you've heard. And getting an education is very important because it helps you know about things that you need to live a good life. And the grown-ups that are here at Green Gulch are also learning something.

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They're getting an education in something called Buddhism, which is, you might say that Buddhism is something like how to live a good life as a grown-up or a child. And believe it or not, most grown-ups, even though they're real old, don't necessarily know how to live well. And they're still learning it. And so Buddhism is one way to help grown-ups who have their problems, too. They learn how to live better together. And that's why we do what we're doing next to them. When I was in school, they told me that they don't know how to live better together. What told you that? They don't know how to live together. Yeah. Well, that's sort of right. That's part of what living a gringo is all about, is trying to figure out if there's another way to live so that we don't have to blow ourselves up. Because I don't think that would be work, or play, or entertainment, or learning, would it?

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It wouldn't fall into any of those categories. Yes, Dionne? I think I should go out the whole world and play the gringo. Well, actually, a little bit of an exaggeration. Mostly we could blow up all of Russia and all of the United States, but there's not quite enough to blow up the whole world. Probably the Australians and the Africans and people like that would be all right, because they're far away from those places. But we could certainly do a lot of damage. Part of what grown-ups are trying to figure out how to do now, and some of your own moms and dads are trying to figure out if there's some way to not have, first of all, not have so many bombs, so there's not such a big chance that we'll do that. But sort of like, suppose there were two big kids at school, and each big kid had three guns, four knives, eight bazookas, two tanks, and a water pistol. They were both very mad at each other.

[14:46]

Now, you'd think if you could take away at least two guns in both of the tanks and the water pistol and some of the knives, they'd have less of a chance of hurting each other than with all that stuff, right? That's called disarmament. Disarmament means taking away weapons. So the less weapons you have, the less, even if you're mad at somebody, the less crime you could do. So two people without guns and knives can't hurt each other nearly as badly as two people with guns and knives. So that's what disarmament is all about. And there are some drugs who are very interested in trying to get Russia and the United States to disarm and at least talk about disarm. Yeah. Do any of you know the other three countries that have nuclear weapons? No. Not Germany. Not Japan. Germany, France and Ireland. Yes. France, China, there's one more.

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Right. Germany and Japan don't have nuclear weapons because of a very particular reason, which is that they lost the last war fighting us. And so we have kept them from having... their own weapons. Japan doesn't have much of an army. They rely on the United States to protect them. And Germany is the same way. But France, England, and China all have nuclear weapons. Not nearly as many as we do. And there are several other countries that could have them before too long. But it's very difficult to build nuclear weapons. It requires a very highly developed science. And lots of scientists who know how to do it. So most countries can't do it. Yes, ma'am. Why are we one of the most powerful countries? Well, that's a very hard question to answer. One of the reasons is that... We're a rich country? Well, where riches come from is originally from things like oil and gold, silver, and farms and land and factories and things like that.

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Before people from Europe, white people, came to America, there weren't very many people living here. So there was lots of wealth, lots of riches that were in the ground, in the land, in the trees, which no one could take it. So when people came from Europe, there was this very, very big country that they could use things like oil and gas and coal and trees and wood, paper, all that, and make things. And that's how you get rich. So for instance, in Japan, let me just finish my statement. First I'll call on Robin, the alcoholic. In Japan, for instance, Japan has no oil. very little oil. So they have to bring all their oil from other countries and ships in order to make heat to build their factories and build cars and things like that. Whereas the United States has lots of its own oil. And so we were able to... A lot of people got very rich. You ever heard of a man named Rockefeller?

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Well, the Rockefellers are probably the richest family. For a long time, the Rockefellers were the richest family in the world. And And why they're rich is because they made their money sucking up oil out of the ground and selling it to people. Well, that's because they got to the world where anybody else did. They found it. And so forth. Yes, Robin. We got our language from three different places. That's what we teach it to me. It's true. You remember what they were doing? I thought it was like everything we're doing is black. and um yeah he goes to it you know anglo-saxon english because that's a good point but it's a little bit off the subject but that's a good thing to bring up uh Yeah, but there weren't very many of them.

[19:09]

There were a lot more of us than there were men. And also, we brought from Europe, white people from Europe, we brought a lot of things that we knew how to do that Indians didn't know how to do. Like make factories and make steel, make weapons and guns. We were more powerful than they were, not because they weren't as smart or weren't as good. In fact, they had any beautiful things for their way of life, but their way of life wasn't as aggressive or powerful as our way of life, so we were pretty much able to push this out and live our own way of life. And that's part of why, you know, it's very rich, because not only was America full of things in the ground that no one had taken out before, but also people coming from here knew how to use those things, you know, and make riches out of them. Everybody do the same thing. There's another reason too, which is that most countries in the world are surrounded by other countries and have been conquered by wars.

[20:09]

many times in their history, like free ants were being put in there. But America is surrounded by oceans. And until very recently, when there was jet planes and things like that, it was hard to get to. And so America has never in its entire history been conquered like that, where people from another country have come and marched in and did no good like they had in the future. So we haven't had that experience. I'm going to have to go up to the seat, Joe, because we have a couple more questions. Why did Hitler start having these wars? Well, that's another interesting question. The last big war, as most of you know, that Hitler fought was called World War II. And World War II was fought mostly against Germany, who was warred by a pretty bad guy named Hitler. Hitler was a real bad guy. He wanted to take over the whole world pretty much. And Hitler German scientists were probably the best scientists in the world, and they knew about the possibility of splitting atoms to make a very powerful explosion.

[21:40]

And so Hitler's scientists were developing, or at least American scientists thought they were developing atomic bombs. We were very afraid that Hitler would develop an atomic bomb if he would actually be able to take one. And so we decided the only way to stop that was for us to develop the atomic bomb first. That's what happened. And we actually were able to lead Germany in the war before they developed the atomic bomb. But then we were still fighting Japan. And so to make the war end faster, the president of the United States, who was named Truman at that time, decided to drop the atomic bomb on two cities in Japan called Hiroshima and Nagasaki. And his thinking about that was that it was, although it was going to kill a lot of people, he was afraid that Japan would not surrender, even though they were losing it, that we have to kill many more people until Japan was invincible. So he felt that to do that and make the war end quickly by showing Japan it couldn't possibly win was actually better than killing millions and millions of more people.

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Now, a lot of people After that, it looked back and said they thought it was a very bad thing to do. You shouldn't have done that. But anyway, that's what happened. That's why. So then America was the only country in the world at that time that had nuclear weapons. But shortly after that time, the other big country, the powerful country in the world, Russia, also had nuclear weapons. And then other countries wanted to have it, too. So pretty soon, they were making nuclear weapons. The reason why we know how to make nuclear weapons is because of some scientific discoveries of a man named Albert Einstein. You've probably heard of Einstein. Einstein found out how the very tiniest forms of matter called atoms are made and how to release the energy inside of it. And because he found that out, people immediately decided that they could make bombs out of that. So that's how it could be.

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It was before Einstein discovered that, people didn't know how to make nuclear weapons. The strongest weapons people had were bombs made out of TNT explosives. TNT? TNT is a chemical explosive, kind of like dynamite. He was, but he left Germany because he hated Hitler. He came to America, lived in America during World War II. A lot of good people in Germany ran away from Hitler's power because they were afraid Hitler would kill them in this problem. Most people think that Hitler killed himself because he realized that he had lost the war. well i think that's kind of hard to say he was a real bad person he hated people a lot and he was that a lot of people are that way but he was also the head of a large powerful country and when you're the head of a large powerful country and you're also a bad guy you have the power to make a lot of other people do what you say and even though there are lots of bad people that would like to kill other people most of them don't have a chance to do it because they're a little too scared or they don't have the power but he had the power to do it and why he got the power

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We can talk about it some other time. It's pretty complicated. Anyway, is there lunch or anything? Amber, and then Ivan, and then we'll end. was still alive or that somebody shot him? Well, I think it's pretty clear that Hitler died in World War II, but there's always been rumors from this point on that maybe he's still alive in Argentina or something like that. But most people don't believe those rumors. It's just that you know how rumors are a gossip. Even though they're not true, once they get started, people like to believe them. It's probably not true. There's no proof of it. It's not a movie of it. We'll see. When we kill those children, to die for Hitler. I don't know if that's exactly true. Why would Russia and America become enemies? Well, that's pretty hard to say exactly why Russia and America are going to do this.

[26:35]

Russia and America have a different idea about how to make society work, how people should... Society of government. Society of all the people in the country. Russia and America have very different ideas about how to make society work. Also, we, Russia and America, both want... the same thing. Now, let's say you and Kim both wanted that down. Now, both of you did have it. You'd probably fight over it, right? And you'd become enemies. Well, Russia and America both want to control other countries or to control the riches of other countries and so forth. So to some extent, we're fighting over it, but we're not fighting with weapons because the weapons that we have are so horrible that no one could win. So we're fighting We're not really fighting like a war. We're fighting war. It's what used to be called the Cold War. You ever go back for years?

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The Cold War. The Cold War is more like fighting with words rather than fighting with words. That's more the way Russia is fighting. Can we stop? Yes, we'll stop. We'll begin. Okay? I'll let Joshua with me. Goodbye. Thank you very much.

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